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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by sfdlkj3jk342a »

phoronixrly wrote: post #163
omnimus wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people will are reading this comment on completely Lenovo(Chinese)-owned Thinkpad laptop. If you are worried about devices made in/by Chinese then good luck. Personally i am now more worried about US corps feed my phone data to Palantir.

I'm calling out Graphene for dealing with a Chinese- owned company instead of US or Euro-owned vendor. There is a difference between manufacturing parts and components in China, and the entire design/development, production, assembly, and maintenance being owned by a Chinese-owned vendor. Not to mention that by their actions Graphene are aiding an economic and political adversary develop more secure devices.

What's wrong with a Chinese owned company? As someone who has no plans to step foot in China, I'd much rather be spied on by the Chinese than the US or EU.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by shakna »

ggm wrote: post #169
shakna wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...

MyGov is my governments portal. (I'm australian) I'd have to maintain another path to do tax, Medicare, related functions. This is an embuggerance.

And its only getting worse. The extreme push for myID everything, is really not helping the ecosystem of things.

And on top of attestation, good luck if you've ever changed your legal name, in getting myID to behave at all.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by jillesvangurp »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

There are plenty of people looking to get out of the Google/Apple sphere of influence. These are people that maybe aren't technical enough to be able to do stuff with flashing their phones. Another big hurdle is figuring out solutions for getting critical stuff working for things like payments, banking, and soon even identity cards and drivers licenses.

The hard part is building an ecosystem for app providers that is easy enough for users, app developers, and device manufacturers to engage with while still being secure enough. Google/Apple are asserting a lot of control over this space right now. But their technical moat is limited to them gate keeping their own OS and devices.

A more open ecosystem here could force some changes in this space. Given recent turmoil around treaties, tariffs, etc., the EU, and other regions, depending a bit less on US based software providers here would be healthy and overdue. Somebody needs to start somewhere for this to happen.

However, moving the use of alternative operating systems for mobile devices beyond the hobbyist/enthusiast level is going to require a bit of work. This is the main blocker to adoption of alternatives to Android and IOS.

Some policy changes would be helpful. E.g. mandating proper access to banking and other things outside of the Apple Store and Google Playstore ecosystems would be helpful. Right now, banks default to covering essentially only those two for "security reasons". That gives a de-facto oligarchy to Google and Apple. Breaking that open might require some arm twisting.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by adrian_b »

Motorola was already in my top position in the list of possible upgrades for my old (ASUS) phone, for providing at moderate prices USB 3 connectivity and DisplayPort 1.4 that allows the connection of an external monitor, for a desktop mode.

With this announcement, Motorola has consolidated its top position, making it unlikely for me to choose something else.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by flexagoon »

mendelmaleh wrote: post #167

One thing that bothers me is the seeming lack of transparency about who is running GrapheneOS. Daniel Micay supposedly stepped down, so who is calling the shots now? Who runs the CI? Who owns the update servers and signing keys? Who am I trusting?

Daniel Micay is still running the project despite announcing he'd step down a while ago. You can see the entire team on their Github

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by ikkun »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #4

Alas that in the US it is seemingly impossible to get unlocked bootloaders now. I'm trying to figure out what couple-year-old international phone to buy now. Good on Motorola. Incredibly smart to tap these passionate geniuses.

last phone I had was a motorola, you can unlock the bootloader but you have to make an account, give them the IMEI and request an unlock code. it probably has to be a carrier unlocked phone too. the latest motorola phones look to be the same way. pixels are afaik the only phones atm that you can just unlock without any fuss, so long as they were never used with verizon.

I once bought a oneplus phone to unlock the bootloader, they have the same process requiring an account etc, saying it could take up to 2 weeks to get the code. they never emailed it to me so I returned the phone.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by nunobrito »

karel-3d wrote: post #147
nunobrito wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are other Android distributions without suspicious funding sources that don't force you into google-owned hardware, nor give you as second option to jump directly into NSA hardware suppliers.

But they are not NSA hardware suppliers.

Yes, they are. Since decades now. DYOR.
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