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/e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by goldenarm »

amelius wrote: post #10
goldenarm wrote: post #9

Tweaking user-hostile OSes into user-friendly ones is impressive, but not sustainable. Even worse, it slowing us down from leaving Android entirely. Look at the AdBlocker crackdown of Google Chrome. Every single chrome-fork has shut down MV2 extensions, even Brave is about to do it, because it is impossible to maintain features that complex on a browser that Google spends >$1B/year to develop. Same story for /e/ and…

You don't have to use Chrome or Chromium.

Yes fortunately we have browser alternatives.

But on mobile, my bank and my government force me to use the Android/iOS duopoly.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by flexagoon »

miroljub wrote: post #8
lpcvoid wrote: post #2

There's absolutely no reason to use /e/ when GrapheneOS exists. https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

But GrapheneOS doesn't exist. It works only on a few devices created by Google, so their claim of being degoogled is a bit funny.

> their claim of being degoogled is a bit funny.

I don't think they use this term anywhere.

It also now works on Motorola devices, it's on my HN feed literally right above this post.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by amelius »

purkka wrote: post #4

I wonder how this compares to GrapheneOS in practice. >Operated by Murena, your Murena Workspace account @murena.io is at the centre of the ecosystem, allowing to store, back up and retrieve your data safely on remote servers. This sounds like their version is somewhat married to Murena. While probably better than Google, still not independent. They're also advertising features such as "hiding your IP address [...] w…

Yeah it really looks like they are trying to solve too many things.

This is usually not a good sign.

I'd prefer to have an OS provider that does one thing well.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by _Soulou »

geff82 wrote: post #3

How is the experience in practice? What works, what doesn't? Are updates prompt and regular?

Overall, everything works pretty well for me (user for multiple years), except all apps which are too bound too Google Play Services as microG is not stubbing/implementing all APIs.

So all apps with premium subscription you can only handle through in-app purchase, usually won't work.

I've heard that some banking apps are not working correctly either as not "secured" enough device, in my personal experience, they all worked, it's really a case-by-case logics here.

For the upgrade, OTA upgrade around every month, and it has always worked smoothly

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by szmarczak »

flexagoon wrote: post #12
miroljub wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But GrapheneOS doesn't exist. It works only on a few devices created by Google, so their claim of being degoogled is a bit funny.

> their claim of being degoogled is a bit funny. I don't think they use this term anywhere. It also now works on Motorola devices, it's on my HN feed literally right above this post.

I have no idea where you got this information - the HN post is about partnership. It does not work on Motorola devices, at least not yet [1].

[1] https://grapheneos.org/releases

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by krige »

flexagoon wrote: post #12
miroljub wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But GrapheneOS doesn't exist. It works only on a few devices created by Google, so their claim of being degoogled is a bit funny.

> their claim of being degoogled is a bit funny. I don't think they use this term anywhere. It also now works on Motorola devices, it's on my HN feed literally right above this post.

It doesn't "now work"; it may work on a future Motorola device that doesn't exist yet.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by mrbn100ful »

lpcvoid wrote: post #2

There's absolutely no reason to use /e/ when GrapheneOS exists. https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

Not everything have to be perfect.

For some user, /e/ is more approachable (Friendly and colorful UI)

I could not get my mother to use GrapheneOS, /e/ is a lot simpler.

Still miles better than to use a Default ROM from most OEM.

Re: /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled” mobile ecosystem

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Post by wiseowise »

amelius wrote: post #10
goldenarm wrote: post #9

Tweaking user-hostile OSes into user-friendly ones is impressive, but not sustainable. Even worse, it slowing us down from leaving Android entirely. Look at the AdBlocker crackdown of Google Chrome. Every single chrome-fork has shut down MV2 extensions, even Brave is about to do it, because it is impossible to maintain features that complex on a browser that Google spends >$1B/year to develop. Same story for /e/ and…

You don't have to use Chrome or Chromium.

Chrome is just an example. Google stopped pretending Android is a general purpose OS and started cracking down on what is possible without Google’s approval. See developer verification, everything within Google services, etc.
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