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Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by trimbo »

gecko wrote: post #6
Killah911 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be really interesting is if they thought of a Hybrid-Cloud approach. I recall Joel talking about adding a new server every week due to Trello's ever growing popularity during his presentation at Startup School. Being able to spool up on-demand should really help with performance or for times when the datacenter is flooded. But wouldn't it be more cost effective to run it on your hardware during off-peak ti…

Technically, it is running hybrid now, albeit for somewhat silly reasons: the mail server is still at Peer1.

Yeah it's hard to migrate email given the anti-spam measures ISPs use like IP reputation.

Good luck. Maybe a quick migration to Sendgrid for that system? (Edit: or Amazon SES, of course)

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by jspthrowaway »

gecko wrote: post #10
citricsquid wrote: post #9

Not entirely related, but regarding the backup fuel situation: how long does 1 "bucket" of fuel keep the power going for and what is the cost of 1 bucket of fuel?

This information is from earlier today, so I don't know how accurate it is, but: - They burn 44 gallons per hour - The tank adjacent to the generator holds ~400 gallons - Gas is currently VERY expensive, but I don't have a real number for you at the moment.

Diesel, on-highway in New England, is averaging $4.205/gal[1] (probably more in the city, especially more in a disaster situation). Applying your information to the above question and assuming they can get just shy of five gallons per bucket, it's probably a fair estimate that each bucket carries more than $20 of diesel fuel and accounts for seven minutes of generator time. So, about $3 per minute or 5.1 cents every second.

Really puts things in perspective.

[1]: http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by modarts »

Unrelated to the post, but I hope you guys are all doing okay out there.

I have a huge amount of respect and appreciation for the level of commitment you have for your customers, despite these horrific circumstances. Stay safe!

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by Killah911 »

gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

Wow, that's going beyond the extra mile. I'm pretty far from NYC but if I were closer I'd give you guys a hand. In lieu of that, any possibility of a "Trello Hurricane fund" which we can donate to? Would give appreciative users like me a chance to help pitch in for a team and product which has already helped so much. Maybe it'll amount to just enough for lunch or something, but I for one would feel much better knowing that I contributed a little...

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by ivany »

gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers?

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by gecko »

ivany wrote: post #15
gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel up a staircase? I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails, or are they sealed containers?

    Are there any safety issues associated with hauling a bucket of diesel
    up a staircase?
It's flammable and slippery. Wear boots, and I suggest this is a good day to quit smoking.

    I know it's not as volatile as gasoline but it's still not exactly
    the most fire-safe substance. Are they literally 5-gallon pails,
    or are they sealed containers?
They are open buckets we store the cleaning supplies for the fish tank in. And also now gasoline.

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by rdl »

"Trello is in the process of being moved to Amazon AWS where it will not be affected by further data center issues."

I guess that's called the power of positive thinking?

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by grey-area »

gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

I'm sure you've thought of this, but now that you're up and running, isn't it possible to buy/hire a pump, run it off the electricity from the already running generators, and pump it up from street level instead, instead of walking up stairs with buckets?

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by Dobbs »

grey-area wrote: post #18
gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

I'm sure you've thought of this, but now that you're up and running, isn't it possible to buy/hire a pump, run it off the electricity from the already running generators, and pump it up from street level instead, instead of walking up stairs with buckets?

The pump is underwater.

Re: Trello has moved to AWS

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Post by dbecker »

gecko wrote: post #8

There's a little bit more information in the last status post, plus a picture of Fog Creek cofounder Michael Pryor hauling 5-gallon jugs of diesel up 17 flights of stairs. (We have other employees down there, too, and I know Stack Exchange's NYC employees were excited to help out, so they're probably there by now, too.) http://status.fogcreek.com/2012/10/diesel-bucket-brigade-mai...

Perhaps the Fog Creek staff is just really fit, but it seems like it would have made sense to hire some burly mover dudes to haul gasoline up stairs.
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