Scott Forstall leaves Apple • Hacker News Board

Re: Scott Forstall leaves Apple

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Post by olliesaunders » Tue, Oct 30, 2012, 11:51 PM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #268

nzjames wrote: post #235

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I'm from New Zealand but have travelled in the US and lived in the UK. The difference is service. You get it in the US. I remember it in every store. Initially I thought it was intimidating because I was not used to it. But after a few months and some great experiences I really enjoyed it. You don't get it in the UK. High street stores, especially noticeable in places like shoe stores where you need service to comple…

I never got into the helpful staff thing. I dislike being helped when in shops. Clearly I have been in New Zealand too long. Something that really irked me in the US was the way taxes worked. I never knew what I was going to pay, as taxes weren't included in the label price. It wasn't a large percentage, but I never could quite understand why anyone would take the time to make a price label which showed a price diffe…

It's like this in Canada too. Very irritating. Especially because somethings are subject to tax and some aren't so it isn't even as simple as just adding a percentage to every price.

Re: Scott Forstall leaves Apple

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Post by moe » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 3:23 AM UTC

emehrkay wrote: post #317

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Do you really like the gamecenter popover? To me it's one of the worst designs on the iPad. The buttons are way too tiny, they are arranged differently for every game, and each game seems to compete for the least intuitive layout and labeling.

Yeah why not? The metaphor works/I cant think of a better one. One thing that I like about some of Apple's approach to things is that the user explicitly enters a mode or changes frame of action. There is a mode the user enters when moving around ios icons/making folders, there is a mode when editing content that appeared to be static at one point. The faux leather/fake realism helps make that switch. If the Xbox os…

Yes, well, I'm all for having a popup and for having it stand out in terms of design. I just say that the GameCenter-Popups is a very poor design, especially by apple standards.

In other words: The metaphor is fine but the execution is lacking.

Re: Scott Forstall leaves Apple

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Post by r00fus » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 4:33 AM UTC

arrrg wrote: post #109

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Man what luck for Apple that Braun didn't take out a design patent on this.

It wouldn’t matter. Design Patents are valid for fourteen years. Every single product Dieter Rams designed for Braun is decades older than that. Don’t fight patents with cheap lies. There are plenty of reasons why patents are bad, bad, bad, no need to resort to untruths.

I could matter. Companies that have highly valuable patents can create what are called "patent portfolios" which take some patents, layer them with other patents and use the legal trick of "continuation" to effectively get patent coverage for portfolio as a whole by constantly developing newer, tightly-coupled patents.

Braun, if they wished, could have done so. Of course, I'm sure in that case, Apple would have probably licensed the patents or worked around them.

Re: Scott Forstall leaves Apple

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Post by r00fus » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 4:41 AM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #101

Does anyone but me here listen incessantly to podcasts? The latest Podcasts App from iTunes is a skeuomorphic mess. It has a superfluous animation of a reel-to-reel player of course. But it utterly fails at its most basic task: playing a goddamn podcast. But don't take my word for it, it has a 1.5 star rating on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/podcasts/id525463029 Not to mention crashes... Apple used to make…

Not sure about you, but I've had pretty decent success with the Podcasts app.

It was a bit cumbersome to learn (tap to show position/scrubbing bar) but it works well for my news podcasts as well as my podrunner casts.

I often find streaming works fine instead of downloading the episode... couldn't do that before easily in the iPod/Music app.

Re: Scott Forstall leaves Apple

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Post by r00fus » Wed, Oct 31, 2012, 4:45 AM UTC

nachteilig wrote: post #31

I'm actually surprised that they allowed John Browett to receive his first batch of grants before they showed him the door. Didn't seem like he had long after some of his recent communication problems.

I'm not - it's part of the requirement to provide some renumeration (esp. in stock) for departing executives regardless of tenure as their inside knowledge is very dangerous in the wrong hands.

It's also a lesson to the hiring team: you know you'll be paying some decent compensation regardless of who you hire or for how long, so learn to do your job well and hire the right person. Ounce of prevention and all that.