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How to talk to anyone and why you should

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Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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post #109

Why does the majority of people just assume people want to communicate... I have not read the article and never am going to. This headline premise alone of doing that will destroy any sanity I have. I do not, ever, want to talk you as a standard and you should never force that to me.

You basically just 'forced' me to read your comment. Aren't you talking to a stranger here?

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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post #109

Why does the majority of people just assume people want to communicate... I have not read the article and never am going to. This headline premise alone of doing that will destroy any sanity I have. I do not, ever, want to talk you as a standard and you should never force that to me.

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Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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I speak to everyone when in "work mode". Its part of the job. I smalltalk, im curious, i listen. When off work I dont really want to talk to people at all (outside "my" people, i.e. my family and small group of friends). If someone strikes up a conversation I will of course engage, but I reach a threshold where I run out of gas and have to excuse myself.

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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post #14

After a bad breakup in 2015, I followed some advice from the socialskills subreddit to “talk to everyone” so that you get better at talking to women you might want to date. The advice was not to only talk to attractive people but everyone. The old man reading a Russian newspaper, the kid on bike doing tricks, people in the elevator. I do that now and it brings me a lot of joy. Recently while leaving a botanical garde…

I love this. I know I struggle with "I don't want to bother this person". How do you deal with that?

> "I don't want to bother this person".

> How do you deal with that?

You teach yourself to say no, to the things you don't want to do.

I considered leaving just that pithy reply, because that's really it. But some of the extra context; It's not a bother to ask someone to hold the door they're already going through because your hands are full. Starting a conversation is about as intrusive as that. The vast majority of people don't mind making some small talk, and ontop of that, the majority can make an excuse if they don't have time. You only assume they can't politely decline, because you can't. Once you learn to say no thanks, politely, but explicitly and directly. You'll actually understand and expect others to return the favor.

That's a much more fair way to interact with people too.

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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post #114
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See my answer to that question is “er, yes, obviously??!” and so I assume, apparently incorrectly, that everyone is like me.

If it's obvious to you that everyone should be bothered by people being friendly then there's an error in your reasoning process.

I'm guessing you're either from the midwest US, or not from the US. Am I right?

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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post #57
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be bothered if a stranger struck up a nice conversation with you? Most people like it! And even if they don’t, that’s ok, trust people to tell you their boundaries and respect them when they do. Nothing wrong with bothering someone if they tell you or send a strong signal and you respect it.

See my answer to that question is “er, yes, obviously??!” and so I assume, apparently incorrectly, that everyone is like me.

I have a hard time imagining this. What kind of scenario are you imagining?

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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post #32
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love this. I know I struggle with "I don't want to bother this person". How do you deal with that?

Do you get bothered when someone talks to you in a nice fashion?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/introvert

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

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One of my best stranger conversations talking to a “Big Issue” seller outside a supermarket. As I understand, they’re (close to) homeless usually [1].

When I asked about him, he mentioned he’s Irish but moved on to tell me about his plans. How he was saving to have a farm, planned what to grow, animals - 15m of quite precise description. His story was his future.

This was striking for me - when asked most people tell you about their past, where they’re coming from. It was the first time I realised that where we’re going should be a bigger part of our story and identity.

I try to keep that conversation in mind.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Issue

Re: How to talk to anyone and why you should

#130
post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely get bothered when someone talks to me. I am typically rushing through my day to do stuff, whether it is hiking, grocery shopping, working out, or going to the restroom at work, and getting interrupted feels to me like getting an unwanted push notification on your phone. When someone occasionally engages, I extremely quickly dismiss them in the most polite, but firm, way possible. I also intentionally keep…

> it would seem an incredibly rude thing to do It's one thing to not want it and to be comfortable not wanting it, but viewing it as rude goes way beyond that and is not rational.

The golden rule disagrees.

I am bothered by random people wanting to talk to me -> Randomly talking to other people would bother them -> Bothering people is rude -> Randomly talking to people is rude.

Hence why the platinum rule is better. Once you know that other people (apparently!) aren't bothered by randomly striking up a conversation, you can adjust your actions accordingly.

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