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Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting

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We continue to inch closer to these dumb buckets costing someone their life. Hell, they may already have.

Human driven cars cost people their lives multiple times every day, though. So I don't think the calculation can be quite as simple as that. As self driving cars are rolled out I think each incident like this needs to be studied to see how avoidable it was, whether a human would have been able to resolve it, and what changes can be made.

There are always going to be fuck ups at some level. The question is whether we’re moving from a world of more fuckups to fewer or not.

Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting

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post #4
post #2

We continue to inch closer to these dumb buckets costing someone their life. Hell, they may already have.

Human driven cars cost people their lives multiple times every day, though. So I don't think the calculation can be quite as simple as that. As self driving cars are rolled out I think each incident like this needs to be studied to see how avoidable it was, whether a human would have been able to resolve it, and what changes can be made. There are always going to be fuck ups at some level. The question is whether we’…

"Multiple" being stretched to the absolute limit in this comment.

Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting

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We continue to inch closer to these dumb buckets costing someone their life. Hell, they may already have.

If you are to believe Waymo’s safety stats, they have less accidents/injuries per mile driven.

But whether or not reducing injuries at a statistical level outweighs the downside of autonomous vehicles causing accidents (even at lower rates) is a bit of a dilemma.

Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting

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Cars block the street all the time, there is ample place to pass the waymo car on the left in the opposing lane, yet those SUV driving humans don't care to move out of the way either, and police just blocks the maneuver area too.

That silver car in the front could also just pass in front and make space. Situational awareness has room to be improved for a lot of entities in this short video.

Nueces Street is 3 and half lanes wide there plus massive sidewalks, apparently to narrow for even more massive ambulances.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/74jF9iDUCXmm9jVE7

Re: Waymo blocking ambulance during deadly Austin shooting

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At the risk of sounding ignorant, why didn't the various police cruisers and even the ambulance itself just push the damn thing out of the way? That's what the push bars attached to the front of their vehicles are for.

My thoughts exactly.

What an embarrassment.

"Authorities" paralyzed by politeness when lives are in the balance.

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