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Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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It's literally the Department of War https://x.com/DeptofWar

They are roleplaying. It's literally the Department of Defense.[0] [0] https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/28655-document-11-nationa...

Exactly. People calling it the department of war just legitimizes an illegitimate and moronic name.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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> It's a piece of software that predicts the most likely token, it is not and can never be conscious. A brain is a collection of cells that transmit electrical signals and sodium. It is not and can never be conscious.

Except an LLM actually is a piece of software. And the brain is not what you said.

Which part of what he said is wrong?

> A brain is a collection of cells that transmit electrical signals and sodium. ...

That it is a collection of cells? Or that they transmit electrical signals and sodium?

Or do you feel that he's leaving out something important about how it works (like generated electrical fields or neural quantum effects)?

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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From that same X thread: Our agreement with the Department of War upholds our redlines [1] OpenAI has the same redlines as Anthopic based on Altman's statements [2]. However somehow Anthropic gets banished for upholding their redlines and OpenAI ends up with the cash? [1]: https://xcancel.com/OpenAI/status/2027846013650932195#m [2]: https://www.npr.org/2026/02/27/nx-s1-5729118/trump-anthropic...

OpenAI is playing games. When Anthropic says they have red lines, they mean "We refuse to let you use our models for these ends, even if it means losing nearly a billion dollars in business." When OpenAI says they have red lines, they mean "We are going to let the DoD do whatever the hell they want, but we will shake our fist at them while they do it." That's why they got the contract. The DoD was clear about what th…

"Red lines" does not mean some philosophical line they will not cross.

"Redlines" are edits to a contract, sent by lawyers to the other party they're negotiating with. They show up in Word's Track Changes mode as red strikethrough for deleted content.

They are negotiating the specifics of a contract, and Anthropic's contract was overly limiting to the DoD, whereas OpenAI's was not.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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An LLM can neither understand things nor value (or not value) human life. *It's a piece of software that predicts the most likely token, it is not and can never be conscious.* Believing otherwise is an explicit category error. Yes, you can change the training data so the LLM's weights encode the most likely token after "Should we kill X" is "No". But that is not an LLM valuing human life, that is an LLM copy pasting…

> It's a piece of software that predicts the most likely token, it is not and can never be conscious. A brain is a collection of cells that transmit electrical signals and sodium. It is not and can never be conscious.

I think this is a useful way to look at things. We often point out that LLMs are not conscious because of x, but we tend to forget that we don't really know what consciousness is, nor do we really know what intelligence is beyond the Justice Potter Stewart definition. It's helpful to occasionally remind ourselves how much uncertainty is involved here.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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Which is used primarily for offense anyway

I'm pretty sure the amount the money spent on offensive actions is significantly less than the defense

When was America last invaded by a foreign adversary?

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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I am going to stop using ChatGPT immediately.

No no no use it more, make sure to use up as much tokens as possible. They do inference at a loss

> They do inference at a loss

They don't, inference is cheap, especially for agents because of cache hits. The API prices are just inflated.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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Deleting my account today once I import my data to Claude

I'm also waiting on my ChatGPT data export. I started it last night and I'm still waiting. I would say there's huge opportunity here for Claude to offer direct import tooling.

Literally a feature being advertised as of today.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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a lot of people seem to be debating which of these thieves to align to. Only because Anthropic lost this stage doesnt mean they are somehow morally better. They all sell and sold lies. steal data, and only want your money, at the cost of you.
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