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Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by rickydroll »

rmast wrote: post #61
strken wrote: post #59

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I feel like we're due for something really ridiculous next. I've been paying attention to macros, fibre, salt, and having a reasonably varied diet for years; we've done salt, fat, carbs, protein, and now we're doing fibre. "Eat a varied diet" seems boring but maybe those influencers selling pills made from 500 vegetables were ahead of the curve all along.

It would probably be better to just eat all those different vegetables as part of actual meals to get a varied diet, rather than in pill form. I was under the impression that more protein and less salt/fat/carbs are still kinda the trend? If more fiber gets added to the mix I guess it is essentially telling people to eat more plants, thus leading to more varied diets overall.

> I was under the impression that more protein and less salt/fat/carbs are still kinda the trend?

kinda sorta. The low-carb, higher-protein diet is standard diet advice for T2D, and even more so if on a GLP-1 drug to reduce muscle loss.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by ac29 »

EPWN3D wrote: post #65
brandonb wrote: post #7

Fiber is the ultimate nutritional power tool. Not only does fiber reduce cardiovascular mortality by 26% (by cutting cholesterol), surprisingly enough, fiber even reduces your risk of cancer by 22%: https://www.empirical.health/blog/dietary-fiber-reduces-all-... (Oatmeal is high in fiber, among other things, which I think is part of what's going on here.)

I wonder, do overnight oats wind up processing away a lot of the benefits? Do steel-cut oats have more of an effect on cholesterol than rolled?

> I wonder, do overnight oats wind up processing away a lot of the benefits?

Overnight oats are just normal oats left in liquid overnight to skip the cooking step.

What processing were you thinking of? If anything they are less processed than normal oats since they aren't cooked.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by ac29 »

OutOfHere wrote: post #60
nomel wrote: post #20

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I usually eat mine like cereal, uncooked old-fashioned in cold milk, with a bit of honey or brown sugar for flavor. Apparently this is normal overseas. Steel cut is just a different thing altogether. I like mine a bit on the firm side, with butter, brown sugar. On top, some plain yogurt pair nicely. Cranberries and walnuts are pretty great too. I think one-minute/instant oatmeal is terrible, no matter how it's prepar…

Honey is good, but there is never a reason to add any sugar even if brown. Oatmeal can be sweetened with practically any fruit. Berries work really well, whether dried or fresh. I add wild blueberries.

> Berries work really well, whether dried or fresh.

Frozen berries work really well too and they are much cheaper than fresh. Just have to leave them out for an hour (or overnight in the fridge) to thaw

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by netcraft »

e40 wrote: post #77
netcraft wrote: post #27

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I have high cholesterol, have had for more than a decade. Was on a statin, they didnt help. Doubled them, they didnt help. Changed my diet radically, lost 25 lbs (I was a little overweight, but not bad), ate full medeteranian diet and did everything I could, my numbers didnt budge. Changed to a stronger one and within two weeks my numbers were perfect. I believe for some of us its purely genetic.

What does “Changed to a stronger one” mean?

yes, changed to a stronger statin.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by netcraft »

EPWN3D wrote: post #66
netcraft wrote: post #27

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I have high cholesterol, have had for more than a decade. Was on a statin, they didnt help. Doubled them, they didnt help. Changed my diet radically, lost 25 lbs (I was a little overweight, but not bad), ate full medeteranian diet and did everything I could, my numbers didnt budge. Changed to a stronger one and within two weeks my numbers were perfect. I believe for some of us its purely genetic.

There are some people who just have high cholesterol but none of the other risk factors. I'm one of them. I did a calcium score on my heart, and it came back clean. The cardiologist basically said my cholesterol is just part of who I am, and it's not causing problems. If you're similar to me, you might want to get a second opinion. There are different kinds of LdL cholesterol, and the small, dense particles are the o…

unfortunately im not in the same situation. I have a high incidence in my family, my calcium score wasn't clean (especially for someone my age) and my vo2max isnt the best either. Though my many stress tests have always been fine.

I don't think im in terrible shape right now, but looking ahead 10 to 20 years, without medical intervention I probably would be.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by zargon »

dralley wrote: post #30
Loughla wrote: post #22

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I've eaten oatmeal for breakfast, have a heart healthy diet, and exercise regularly. My total cholesterol and especially LdL are always massively high. My body hates me.

My LDL is stuck between 145 and 155 permanently. Same for my mom and aunts. Oatmeal, exercise, etc. doesn't help. I'm still young so my doctor isn't terribly concerned, but in 10 years I'll probably have to be on statins.

You should question this and advocate for yourself. The important number is total lifetime exposure to LDL (actually apoB, but doctors aren't routinely testing that yet). The arterial damage is cumulative. You shouldn't wait until you are at high risk of cardiac events to take action. The time to slow down the progression is now.

I'm just replying based on taking your comment at face value. LDL of 150 is very high and living with that for many years is very damaging. Obviously it's something between you and your doctor, I'm just encouraging you to consider and get reasoning from your doctor about whether this approach is really best for your health.

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by slumberlust »

fumeux_fume wrote: post #51
dataviz1000 wrote: post #36

Steal-cut oatmeal made in Insta Pot is the best thing in the world. I do 2.5 to 1 ratio. It is important to not let the steam out. It takes about 30 minutes plus another 10 to cool. Set it and forget it. Add raisons and cinnamon at the end. Or, let freshly minced ginger steep with some orange zest.

I make it on the stove top. It also takes 30 minutes to cook and 10 to cool. My ratio of water to dry oatmeal is 3 to 1 by weight in grams and I mix in honey after it's done.

I microwave mine for 5 minutes (50% power) with a diced apple and some cinnamon. Ez Pz

Re: Just two days of oatmeal cut bad cholesterol by 10%

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Post by dralley »

zargon wrote: post #97
dralley wrote: post #30

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My LDL is stuck between 145 and 155 permanently. Same for my mom and aunts. Oatmeal, exercise, etc. doesn't help. I'm still young so my doctor isn't terribly concerned, but in 10 years I'll probably have to be on statins.

You should question this and advocate for yourself. The important number is total lifetime exposure to LDL (actually apoB, but doctors aren't routinely testing that yet). The arterial damage is cumulative. You shouldn't wait until you are at high risk of cardiac events to take action. The time to slow down the progression is now. I'm just replying based on taking your comment at face value. LDL of 150 is very high an…

It's a borderline kinda thing. He said if it was consistently in the 160s he would probably recommend them. My previous doctor was basically in the same camp but had me taking blood tests every 3 months for a year to see if it was stuck there.
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