You forgot the part where they charge you to get rid of the ads but then the ads come back anyway so you're paying to be the product.
This will happen!
(difficult to show in a quick demo that you view for like 10 seconds)
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#32Thanks, I hate it. Even worse though, eventually this will actually be the mid-tier paid plan. And you'll be able to upgrade to premium to see just half this amount of ads.
And that's indeed exactly how it's going to be. Just like with a random Google search.
Reminds me of the empty search pages I sometimes get since I started blocking all ads and LLM generated pages over time.
I wonder how the adblockers are going to fight this.
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#33Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#34And more energy will be put into ad blocking, so the advertiser will pay for thousands of tokens to generate the ad and the user will pay for the tokens to strip the ads
Advertising is the root of all evil
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#35Pretty crazy and no doubt a lot of these patterns will find their way in more subtly. The total global ad revenue for online is massive at nearly 1T. Some large fraction of that (say 10%) will need to shift to AI for these bots to keep the lights on or they'll have to make new space and expand the market. Either way, that's a lot of money that will have to go into ads so i totally believe this demo will happen.
I don't see such a huge shift happening though. Ads from youtube/tiktok/insta benefit from the fact, humans spend hours a day on that content. Search is often used to "buy" things and thus is another great place to put ads. Will people go to chatbots to "buy" things? Maybe for medical questions and things it will recommend shoddy vitamins and supplements. Will that pay the bills? I dunno. It will certainly be regulated in places.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#36Observationally, ad spamminess is inversely correlated with user intent and platform prestige. So I suspect it will take quite a while until it gets quite this bad for the premium platforms.
It will happen slowly over time: 1) start with a notification that ads are coming (already there) 2) adding 1 ad to start with 3) slowly increase ads 4) make it a huge part of the experience (like Google now)
2) Go elsewhere.
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#37I couldn't find an AI option to clean my mac! :(
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#38> is capitalism good or bad? > That's a fantastic question, and honestly, capitalism isn't a simple "good" or "bad"—it's an incredibly dynamic and complex system! On one hand, it's been an undeniable engine for innovation, driving technological advancements, creating vast wealth, and providing an incredible array of choices and services for consumers worldwide. Just think about all the amazing products and opportunit…
I spotted the advert.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#39I don’t think this is what it’ll look like. Ads are going to be way insidious. One major power of these chatbots is persuasion. The end goal isn’t bombardment it’s going to be more subtle.
Yes, I think so too. But I wanted to show this very OBVIOUSLY in an instant. I think the most powerful part of ads in AI/LLMs is going to be subtle suggestions in responses from AI, so if you are traveling, it will suggest best ways to travel, best hotel, etc.
> so if you are traveling, it will suggest best ways to travel, best hotel, etc
We, as a supposed community of orderly citizens of computerised world, should start teaching people that those bots are salespeople. Most people do not trust door to door salesmen and this is worse. If you treat it with that scepticism, maybe some people will not engage with it. Then again, there will always be those who get caught in the net.
Re: I built a demo of what AI chat will look like when it's “free” and ad-supported
#40Pretty crazy and no doubt a lot of these patterns will find their way in more subtly. The total global ad revenue for online is massive at nearly 1T. Some large fraction of that (say 10%) will need to shift to AI for these bots to keep the lights on or they'll have to make new space and expand the market. Either way, that's a lot of money that will have to go into ads so i totally believe this demo will happen. I don…
Right now, the major AI providers are spending Investment $$$s, this will change when they need to become profitable.