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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

What moment would that be? Begging for the Americans to bomb their former country?

At some point you have to decide: if my country is held back by a brutal dictatorial regime where civilians can't hope to topple it, is there anything else to do other than get external help?

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

What moment would that be? Begging for the Americans to bomb their former country?

Yes.

10 million Iranians live outside Iran. They want a normal country again.

Later today, I'm sure footage from LA, Toronto, London, Stockholm will be up.

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What moment would that be? Begging for the Americans to bomb their former country?

At some point you have to decide: if my country is held back by a brutal dictatorial regime where civilians can't hope to topple it, is there anything else to do other than get external help?

As an American, I’m really starting to feel that way.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

I have no doubt that they didn't like that the regime, which is why they left.

But this assassination is no guarantee of change for the better. Far from it.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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In isolation the death of this brutal dictator is great news, but we have seen how previous decapitation strikes have not had the intended effect. And I can only hope the Iranian people somehow end up better for this entirely illegal war that the Trump administration has initiated, instead of facing up to a fractured leadership and a potential civil war.

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post #17

The Iranian diaspora around the world is celebrating. Here's the scene in Berlin: https://youtu.be/NSbx_0mtk80?si=MJ_Bfvx8gVd1P1mm They've waited a very long time for this moment!

Are they cheering killing of dozens of school children as well?

No, obviously.

Actually, they will probably assume the IRGC killed them to blame the West. I don't believe that, but the Iranians can't stand the regime.

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Netanyahu is leading Trump around by the nose apparently. And here we all thought Putin owned Trump. How the wheel turns.

Nobody owns trump, you can't buy him.

Trump is for rent. Shutting down a competitor is 25M, "full service" is apparently ~100M. I'm not privy to what invading an oil nation costs, but I reckon it's akin to a hand job, so a nice golden wristwatch should probably do it?

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even as we speak, Ayatollah Razmara and his cadre of fanatics are consolidating their power!

Maybe .. the revolutionary guard is fed up though with ineffective empire rule? Like to be rubbed in the dirt face first repeatetly as inheritor of the mighty persian empire sucks bad enough, to reconsider the way things are run? Sorry, but whatever israel & the us are doing, seems to work way better than - whatever has happened the last decades in iran?

As I understand it, the IGRC doesn't particularly rub happily with the clerical council, and it's not entirely clear to me who will win that the power struggle.

But the ultimate loser of the power struggle is clear: the Iranian populace at large, as all of the viable factions are quite committed to consolidating their power by repressing the population. The most likely situation, I think, looks a lot like Libya.

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