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Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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Modern social media has only been around for maybe 10-15 years. The honeymoon phase of the 2000s and early 2010s was probably the peak of value for the individual user, but I would say in the mid 2010s the value began to tilt and now the corps extract far more value than what they deliver to individual user’s lives.

Social media today has little value beyond an engine to deliver dopamine hits, increasingly more of this content is just AI slop. I don’t think this will ever be palatable for most users.

I think 10 years from now, it is plausible that major social media platforms will have been completely abandoned by “real” users, in favor of private decentralized chat groups and small anti-viral platforms, where most members have only 1 or 2 degrees of separation to each other, and where the content posted is of interest, but not addicting, and not infinitely scrollable.

This would do a lot of damage to the techno-fascist state, as it takes away one of the pillars upon which their control stands.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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half of Europe is on the verge of shifting to parties with nostalgia for 20th century fascism and the Trump admin declared it a foreign policy goal to help bring them to power. it's red alert time.

Not to get into politics too much, but surely that is a bit different. EU right wing populism and conservative raise had been slowly happening for some 15-20 years. US for 14 months.

The AfD in Germany scheduled their party conference in Weimar, Thuringia to take place exactly 100 years to the day after a famous Nazi rally in... Weimar, Thuringia...

and they say it's a coincidence.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

half of Europe is on the verge of shifting to parties with nostalgia for 20th century fascism and the Trump admin declared it a foreign policy goal to help bring them to power. it's red alert time.

Not to get into politics too much, but surely that is a bit different. EU right wing populism and conservative raise had been slowly happening for some 15-20 years. US for 14 months.

The US has weakened structurally a lot over the past decades. Democracy ends slowly then suddenly I guess.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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The Anthropic situation with the Department of Defense is the clearest example of the application of 'Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state', a doctrine that is explicitly fascist. So if people are still not convinced it might be a good time to reconsider, maybe read a history book or two.

It seems to be a much better example of cronyism being used to oust a competitor to OpenAI at the direct incitement of Altman. I have no doubt that the Trump admin and people like Miller, Hegseth et al dream of ruling with an iron fist... they're just too incompetent to pull it off. They couldn't even pull it off when they had a mandate and some people with actual talent in the first admin.

It's fascism. A shakedown to place private corporate power under state control. Consider that the people dreaming of ruling with an iron fist are currently in charge, shooting citizens in the street, and shaking down billion dollar companies aren't so incompetent that we need not worry.

Act accordingly.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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The question is: will and or when will the response to this violence exceed levels which can be controlled by the same mechanisms? I believe there is a window here, where in most countries experiencing this shift, there are still many individuals who have the power to effect change if they accept the risk. This won't be the case forever - at some point it will be few, not many. Community is important; look after it.

Unfortunately communities tend to be endangered species these days. Perhaps this issue and other seismic societal shifts will change that.

Becoming more politically active has been a massive source of community for me. And if community is already endangered (which isn't something I disagree with, by the way - so many people are inadequately supported), that's all the more reason we should find and build it.

Re: Techno‑feudal elite are attempting to build a twenty‑first‑century fascist state

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What countries apart from the US are experiencing this shift?

half of Europe is on the verge of shifting to parties with nostalgia for 20th century fascism and the Trump admin declared it a foreign policy goal to help bring them to power. it's red alert time.

Putin is behind all this shi(f)t.
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