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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

> Minimally lethal

“Israel strikes two schools in Iran, killing more than 80 people”

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/2/28/israel-strikes-...

Welp, better luck next time

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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If some chinese samples of this unstoppable carrier killer made its way to Iran already.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-nears-deal-buy-supe...

Also, the US News media silence on this is noteworthy.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=reuters+cm-302+missile&ia=w...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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If some chinese samples of this unstoppable carrier killer made its way to Iran already. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-nears-deal-buy-supe... Also, the US News media silence on this is noteworthy. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=reuters+cm-302+missile&ia=w...

If Iran sinks a carrier then the us congress will declare an actual war and that will seal Irans fate. Also, seal the fate of hundreds of thousands of lives.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved. That would be ideal but unfortunately not likely. Nobody will like this comment but US ships are sitting ducks. They have minimal ammo per the pentagon and no oilers. No oilers and low ammo means no prolonged conflict. Only two of the ships are nuclear powered not counting submarines. Most of Iran's military and weapons…

[Update]: It seems my dear leader is hitting all the cities... [1] I am not OK with this. Save the handful of leaders and scientists for ground recon instead of whacking all the citizens. Take out the missiles first. Most of the military and religious leaders are under ground. Take out those underground complexes and Iran is yours.

[1] - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/28/us-and-israel-attac...

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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If some chinese samples of this unstoppable carrier killer made its way to Iran already. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-nears-deal-buy-supe... Also, the US News media silence on this is noteworthy. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=reuters+cm-302+missile&ia=w...

If Iran sinks a carrier then the us congress will declare an actual war and that will seal Irans fate. Also, seal the fate of hundreds of thousands of lives.

So US citizens like you actually expect other countries to accept being attacked by you without as little as defending themselves?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I am just befuddled by how much of this violence is directly motivated by religious concerns, both on the side of Iran and on the side of Israel and USA. I have been reading on the topic of shunyata or emptiness in Mahayana Buddhism, and have been uncomfortably observing just how much of the artifacts we take to be real and substantial in the world are just "made up". They don't have an inherent reality of their own…

It makes a lot more sense if you picture a bunch of organized, strong and merciless chimps attacking some other chimps to plunder what they have. Chimps generally agree war is bad and horrific. But some smart, opportunistic and hard-working chimps can create situations that make war possible. Even though the war will only bring losses to most chimps on both sides.

The best political insight in this thread. This is the planet of the apes. If any future historians are reading, some of us primates were aware of the absurdity of the situation, horrified by the senseless violence that erupts again and again, led by sociopathic chimps that somehow managed to organize whole societies against each other and profit from the whole primitive enterprise. What a waste of human potential.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

You say that like US and Israel hit Iceland or Portugal. Like, Iran wasn't source of terror on Middle East, funding terrorist groups like Hamas, Hezbolla and Houthi. Like, Iran didn't make "death to Israel, death to America" their national idea. Remind us of Ukrainian rocket attacks on Russian cities, that provoked Ruso-Ukrainian war. You can't not know all of this, so you're either a hamas/russian shill or a useful…

Israel makes sure Hamas is funded, are they a valid target now?

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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I recall someone (name escapes me at the moment) defining WW3 as ignition in 5 flashpoints between belligerent groupings: - Eastern Africa esp. Sudan, which we all nearly universally ignore - Israel Iran - Russia and a neighbor which we know today is Ukraine - Pakistan Afghanistan India - China Taiwan Plus Plus Attributes that distinguish WW3 from previous world wars were IIRC: Contained conflagration, short targeted…

Another aspect of a WW3 is that people- pretty much ALL people everywhere- who have nothing to do with the war will find their lives threatened or completely changed by it.

I'm less concerned about nuclear escalation than about biological escalation.

It's quite hard to destroy the human world with nukes: you can only blow up big chunks of it, maybe take out enough power plants and supply chains to drop us into a multi-decade or multi-century dark age, or maybe cause a nuclear winter, although the actual risk of that is unclear.

Whereas a year into a major war a kid in his/her basement can release something that is functionally the end of the human species.

We currently have no real safeguards against this. If we ever have descendants, they'll think we were insane during this time period and they'll be right.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

> Minimally lethal “Israel strikes two schools in Iran, killing more than 80 people” https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2026/2/28/israel-strikes-... Welp, better luck next time

This reminds me of the Al-Ahli hospital incident in Gaza, when a mysterious explosion at a hospital was immediately blamed on an Iraeli strike - first by Hamas, then by the international press. A precise death toll was immediately available: 500 killed. Israel urged caution as they investigated, but were ignored.

Eventually, it was established that 1) the casualty number had been a fabrication, 2) the explosion was in the parking lot, 3) it was NOT caused by an Israeli strike, but by a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that had fell short.

Soon the press was forced to issue corrections - New York Times [1] , Le Monde [2], BBC [3]...

This incident looks VERY similar. Which is not surprising, since Hamas was trained in information warfare by the IRGC. Note that Al Jazeera (the media arm of Qatar, who funds Hamas and hosts their leaders in Doha) is enthusiastically amplifying this story with no apparent effort to cross-examine Iran's official source.

I predict that this story will turn out to be fabricated as well.

UPDATE: preliminary reports from the OSINT community seem to indicate that the story was indeed a fabrication... https://x.com/tarikh_eran/status/2027784301840846939

[1] https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2023/the-new-york-times-e...

[2] https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2023/10/24/a-no...

[3] https://deadline.com/2023/11/bbcs-international-editor-grill...

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