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The Future of AI

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Re: The Future of AI

#41
This is how Trump plans to end elections, why the government is so hell bent on owning AI. So they can use it as a propaganda tool. People will see it before Nov. We are at a crossroads. On one path, we continue to evolve AI with reckless abandon like we have, or, we put constraints and morality in place while others won’t. Which do you think? You can NEVER put the genie back in the bottle.

EU has their own groups using it for propaganda too.

Re: The Future of AI

#42
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 8 billion people wake up every morning never questioning why are they here, why are they born? People question this all the time

Indeed, philosophy has been around for millennia, probably longer than the written word.

It probably predates modern humans or even humans in general.

Re: The Future of AI

#43
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Agree with many of the points. However one at the root of it all seems easily definable - if we only want. > we can’t agree on a shared ethical framework among ourselves The Golden Rule: the principle of treating others as you would like to be treated yourself. It is a fundamental ethical guideline found in many religions and philosophies throughout history so there is already a huge consensus across time and culture…

> I never found anyone successfully argue against it. I think what you mean is you've never found a rule you personally prefer more, based purely on vibes. Which is all moral knowledge can ever be. It's easy to argue against the golden rule anyway, from many angles, depending on your first principles. The simplest is: How I would like to be treated is not necessarily how they would like to be treated.

But it is the same most of the time for most humans. Should I take this close parking spot or let the old lady behind me take it? Consider it in the spirit not the letter of the law.

Re: The Future of AI

#44
This is a great article and I share its goals. But, it ignores something fundamental about humans as a collective — capitalism. Capitalism is what got us here and is at odds with first understanding and then building. We’ve done this before with other technologies because that’s how our societies have learned to grow and collaborate at large scale. First build and build to its limits. Then understand and fix if necessary. Nothing new here, but stopping the trend toward epistemic collapse requires building incentives into the system for us humans to coevolve with AI.

Re: The Future of AI

#45
post #16

I don’t see any other outcome anymore to be honest, after seeing how humans use AI and how AI works and how providers tune their models. To me it’s given: - AI in it’s current state is ruthless in achieving its goal - Providers tune ruthlessness to get stronger AIs versus the competitor - Humans can’t evaluate all consequences of the seeds they’ve planted. Collateral and reckless damage is guaranteed at this point. C…

AI isn't ruthless, that doesn't even make sense. It's a mathematical model, if it's optimizing for the wrong thing then that's strictly the fault of the people who chose what to optimize for

Re: The Future of AI

#46
post #16

I don’t see any other outcome anymore to be honest, after seeing how humans use AI and how AI works and how providers tune their models. To me it’s given: - AI in it’s current state is ruthless in achieving its goal - Providers tune ruthlessness to get stronger AIs versus the competitor - Humans can’t evaluate all consequences of the seeds they’ve planted. Collateral and reckless damage is guaranteed at this point. C…

Why does it have to be doom and gloom. Serious question. When we plant seeds they bear fruit and not all fruit is poison.

Re: The Future of AI

#47
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure social media is a very good measure, there are many reasons that wondering aloud about this specific topic isn't really incentivized there. I'm not sure I've ever met anyone I would assume has not considered the basic questions of our existence. Unless they were severely mentally disabled, or something like that. For a more public measure I suppose you could look at religion, which seems to be a fundamen…

>I'm not sure I've ever met anyone I would assume has not considered the basic questions of our existence. Unless they were severely mentally disabled, or something like that. You said it yourself, you would assume they question it, meaning you are not certain. This topic is always very much tabu, and the system is built to classify automatically every One that question it as weird and not normal. Religion should be…

I only assume it in a very weak sense, as in all I can really truly know is the solipsitic idea that I alone exist. In practical terms though, I'm very confident most people have considered these questions.

Re: The Future of AI

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post #16

I don’t see any other outcome anymore to be honest, after seeing how humans use AI and how AI works and how providers tune their models. To me it’s given: - AI in it’s current state is ruthless in achieving its goal - Providers tune ruthlessness to get stronger AIs versus the competitor - Humans can’t evaluate all consequences of the seeds they’ve planted. Collateral and reckless damage is guaranteed at this point. C…

Why does it have to be doom and gloom. Serious question. When we plant seeds they bear fruit and not all fruit is poison.

The current fruit is automating away a ton of human labor with no foreseeable way to continue to engage that labor. It is poison for the majority of humanity which will bear fruit for the limited few who can use it / own it.

I think that much is fairly clear from AI.

Re: The Future of AI

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post #16

I don’t see any other outcome anymore to be honest, after seeing how humans use AI and how AI works and how providers tune their models. To me it’s given: - AI in it’s current state is ruthless in achieving its goal - Providers tune ruthlessness to get stronger AIs versus the competitor - Humans can’t evaluate all consequences of the seeds they’ve planted. Collateral and reckless damage is guaranteed at this point. C…

Why does it have to be doom and gloom. Serious question. When we plant seeds they bear fruit and not all fruit is poison.

Not OP, but AI is fundamentally in another category than any other technology before it. It requires moral fortitude to wield in a way that guns and books didn't require. It augments human judgement in a way that needs a moral framework to clearly guide it.

Unfortunately, as a species we seem to be abandoning morality as a general principle. Everything is guided by cold hard rationality rather than something greater than us.

Re: The Future of AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it have to be doom and gloom. Serious question. When we plant seeds they bear fruit and not all fruit is poison.

The current fruit is automating away a ton of human labor with no foreseeable way to continue to engage that labor. It is poison for the majority of humanity which will bear fruit for the limited few who can use it / own it. I think that much is fairly clear from AI.

It's not going to bear fruit for them either.

Why would an AI which is smarter than humans care about a ridiculous belief like "We own you"?

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