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Post by puchatek »

neya wrote: post #381
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

This is not about wars or winning contracts. If you know about Sam's strategies - It's just business. This deal ensures Anthropic doesn't have the financial cushion that OpenAI desperately needs (they just raised billions, also trending on HN). Is it ethical? Probably not. But, all is fair in love and war (proverb).

The deal was only possible because anthropic stayed by their convictions. OpenAI didn't have agency in that. You're making it sound like Altman orchestrated the whole thing.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by nurettin »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #332
Gigachad wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

Well tweets aren't legally binding, so chances are he's just outright lying so they can have their cake (DoD contracts) and eat it too (no bad PR)

This is so funny to me. Especially since Elon musk had to buy Twitter due to his tweets.

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Post by northern-lights »

doodlebugging wrote: post #241

The best way for AI companies to fight this would be to remind those who request this capability that the AI knows exactly where they live, where they hang out, and that any one of them can also be targeted by a rogue AI system with no human in the loop. Capabilities that they are requesting could jeopardize them, their personal assets, and their families if something goes haywire or, in the much more common case, wh…

to better understand what this may result in, see Person of Interest Season 3 Episode 20 - Death Benefit: https://personofinterest.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Benefit

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Post by ahf8Aithaex7Nai »

hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

I dislike the style of Altman's language about as much as I dislike the bullshit language used in politics or the self-incriminating, overly specific denials used by prominent figures to defend themselves against criminal allegations: “I have never had sexual relations with anyone under the age of 18 outside of my own family.”

The language is so coded that the many places where the core statement must be negated stand out like a sore thumb.

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Post by andai »

busko wrote: post #313
hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

For those who don't use X: https://xcancel.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175

>Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement.

I don't get it. Aren't these the same things that Anthropic was trying to negotiate?

Edit: it was explained elsewhere in this thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188473#47190614

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Post by kombine »

mkl wrote: post #263
dang wrote: post #130

Here's the sequence (so far) in reverse order - did I miss any important threads? Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47188697 - Feb 2026 (31 comments) I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47186677 - Feb 2026 (872 comments) President Trump bans Anthropic from use in governm…

Altman says OpenAI agrees with Anthropic’s red lines in Pentagon dispute - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47187488 - Feb 2026 (8 comments)

How can anybody take this guy seriously?

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Post by squarefoot »

skissane wrote: post #379
Gigachad wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something doesn’t make sense here. His tweet claims he has exactly the same restrictions that Anthropic had.

This tweet (from Under Secretary of State Jeremy Lewin) explains it: https://x.com/UnderSecretaryF/status/2027594072811098230 https://xcancel.com/UnderSecretaryF/status/20275940728110982... The OpenAI-DoW contract says "all lawful uses", and then reiterates the existing statutory limits on DoW operations. So it basically spells out in more detail what "all lawful uses" actually means under existing law. Of course, I…

"All lawful uses" has no meaning when a malignant narcissistic sociopath in power controlled by ruthless rich psychopaths can now rewrite every law at will.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by xtracto »

hakrgrl wrote: post #292

1.5 hours after this was posted, Sam Altman stated openai will work with the DoW. So much for this waste of a domain name. https://x.com/sama/status/2027578652477821175 "Tonight, we reached an agreement with the Department of War to deploy our models in their classified network. "

When I started reading all these news, the thought that came to my mind is: how sweet of these companies to try this, but unfortunately I am sure that other countries advancing AI like China (deepseek, GLM, etc) or Russia, or whoever WILL have their companies' AI at their disposal

Unfortunately, this is the new arms race, race to the moon, and all that together.

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