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Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by ParentiSoundSys »

arjie wrote: post #115
lebovic wrote: post #94

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about Anthropic's first response and the RSP update [1][2]. I think many people on HN have a cynical reaction to Anthropic's actions due to of their own lived experiences with tech companies. Sometimes, that holds: my part of the company looked like Meta or Stripe, and it's hard not to regress to the mean as you scale. But not every patt…

This is a pretty classic mistake most people who are in high-profile companies make. They think that some degree of appealing to people who were their erstwhile opponents will win them allies. But modern popular ethics are the Grim Trigger and the Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics. You cannot pass the purity test. One might even speculate that passing the purity test wouldn't do anything to get you acceptance. Pers…

Zohran Mamdani has yet to demonstrate that he poses any serious impediment to Trump and the agenda of Trump's owners.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

xXSLAYERXx wrote: post #127
fooster wrote: post #89

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early stage? shooting a woman in the face in her car for the crime of driving off by the brownshirts is not early stage my dude.

How long can we push this narrative? It was a terrible situation and I can't imagine the minutes of complete fear she must have felt. I pray for her family. But to then draw a conclusion to say this is evidence that we are in some sort of fascist decline, because of this incident, takes away from the innocent lose of life. And greatly exaggerates the skill and aptitude of the killer. People spew the fascist narrative…

You have an unrealistic picture of what fascism looks like. Most people got to pick strawberries throughout the Spanish, Italian, and even German fascist periods.

The problem isn't that fascism will kill all of us, but that you will not get to choose. If the regime decides that your city, your company, or your friends are an enemy, they will destroy you, and if your fellow strawberry-pickers bother to read about it in the paper they'll be told that you were an anti-government radical who had it coming.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by kyle-rb »

dmix wrote: post #133
kyle-rb wrote: post #120

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If it's a loyalty test then you'd think the DoD would be willing to let them "fail" and simply drop the contract, but instead they're threatening to label Anthropic a supply chain risk. If we're going by Occam's razor: it's Friday so Pete probably started drinking ~10:30-11am.

This administration has repeatedly shown it will try to bully or take an outrageous negotiating position just to gain featly. Whether they get anything or whether the dispute is actually what the label says should always be treated with skepticism, especially these days with social media information wars. That’s the benefit of realpolitik when you’re a superpower, you often don’t actually need anything, you can just…

It seems like they'd have a stronger negotiating position if they had an alternative contractor waiting in the wings before they accused Anthropic of being woke traitors, as opposed to a threat to migrate away over the next 6 months.

But again, the sophistication of their strategery might also have a negative correlation with Hegseth's BAC.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by tokyobreakfast »

bigtex88 wrote: post #49
sixo wrote: post #43

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this is false, it's been around for a while

No it's 100% these idiots pushing their fascist propaganda just like they tried to "rename" the Department of Defense to the Department of War. Most members of the military never even see actual fighting.

If you think a gender-neutral term used for decades within their own circles as a form of inclusive corporate-speak is "fascist propaganda" then I'm sorry to say you have serious issues.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by arjie »

ParentiSoundSys wrote: post #161
arjie wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a pretty classic mistake most people who are in high-profile companies make. They think that some degree of appealing to people who were their erstwhile opponents will win them allies. But modern popular ethics are the Grim Trigger and the Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics. You cannot pass the purity test. One might even speculate that passing the purity test wouldn't do anything to get you acceptance. Pers…

Zohran Mamdani has yet to demonstrate that he poses any serious impediment to Trump and the agenda of Trump's owners.

I think there is a marked difference in Trump's rhetoric v Mamdani prior to the meeting at the White House and after.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by ParentiSoundSys »

remarkEon wrote: post #155
machomaster wrote: post #131

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Without English and German scientists and engineers, the United States would not have had a first nuclear weapon or the first successful rocket to land on the moon.

The United States government held scientist at essentially gunpoint in secret towns to make the bomb happen. Not sure what your point is, other than to note that in a previous era people had a better gauge of what time it was.

Are you saying that we should consider the Chinese government to be an existential threat and menace to world peace on the same level as Nazi Germany?

What if the side that did Operation Paperclip and is currently champing at the bit to impose Total Surveillance on its own citizenry maybe isn't The Good Guys?

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by jefftk »

biophysboy wrote: post #112
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #87

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How often was the term used before last year?

Pretty often. When I was at a defense contractor it was the standard term for when you didn't want to say soldier/sailor/airman/marine/etc.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=warfighter&date=a... has videogame-related spikes, but doesn't show any recent increase.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by stego-tech »

I am genuinely shocked that a tech company actually stood on principle. My doubts about AI, Anthropic, and Mr. Amodei remain, but man, I got the warm and fuzzies seeing them stick to their principles on this - even if one clause (autonomous weapons) is less principled and more, “it’s not ready yet”.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Post by zephen »

arjie wrote: post #115
lebovic wrote: post #94

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about Anthropic's first response and the RSP update [1][2]. I think many people on HN have a cynical reaction to Anthropic's actions due to of their own lived experiences with tech companies. Sometimes, that holds: my part of the company looked like Meta or Stripe, and it's hard not to regress to the mean as you scale. But not every patt…

This is a pretty classic mistake most people who are in high-profile companies make. They think that some degree of appealing to people who were their erstwhile opponents will win them allies. But modern popular ethics are the Grim Trigger and the Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics. You cannot pass the purity test. One might even speculate that passing the purity test wouldn't do anything to get you acceptance. Pers…

Your contention that Trump's administration is big tent is risible.

Political witch hunts, women and minorities forced out of the military, and kicking out all the allied countries that used to be in the tent with us?

Bullshit of the finest caliber.

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