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Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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People can still brush this off by saying Anthropic is doing this to create more buzz for its next round. But they are taking unpopular stances and could be burning bridges. Simply take a look at PLTR and it's obviously more lucrative to lean the other way.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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I'm of the opinion that anthropic's "moral" stances are bullshit, not particularly coherent when you dig deep and more about branding. If so, this is grade A marketing. They want to present themselves as moral. What better endorsement than by being rejected by the US military under Trump? You get the people who hate trump and the people who hate the military in one swoop. At the same time its kind of a non story. Anr…

that doesn't even remotely represent what is happening here.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

#153

I'm of the opinion that anthropic's "moral" stances are bullshit, not particularly coherent when you dig deep and more about branding. If so, this is grade A marketing. They want to present themselves as moral. What better endorsement than by being rejected by the US military under Trump? You get the people who hate trump and the people who hate the military in one swoop. At the same time its kind of a non story. Anr…

> What's the problem?

Think. The problem is that being branded a "supply chain risk" prohibits vast chunks of the US corporate landscape from doing business with Anthropic.

The problem is that the government is attempting to destroy a company rather than simply terminate their contract.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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post #94

I used to work at Anthropic, and I wrote a comment on a thread earlier this week about Anthropic's first response and the RSP update [1][2]. I think many people on HN have a cynical reaction to Anthropic's actions due to of their own lived experiences with tech companies. Sometimes, that holds: my part of the company looked like Meta or Stripe, and it's hard not to regress to the mean as you scale. But not every patt…

I applaud Anthropic choice. Choosing principle over money is a hard choice. I love Anthropic's products and wish them success!

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

#155

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So your position is that the United States doesn't get to have it's own Skynet, because Skynet is bad, and that if it really wants to it should fork the Chinese Skynet so that it can have a Skynet if it wants it so much. Do you see the problem here. Genuinely don't think we would've won WWII if these people were running things back then.

Without English and German scientists and engineers, the United States would not have had a first nuclear weapon or the first successful rocket to land on the moon.

The United States government held scientist at essentially gunpoint in secret towns to make the bomb happen. Not sure what your point is, other than to note that in a previous era people had a better gauge of what time it was.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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No, a few law firms targeted by EOs fought them in court last year and won.

Also the case against tariffs, a quick (maybe AI hallucinated) search shows `Victor Owen Schwartz` was part of the challenge. Democracy isn't dead folks, but it takes more work than usual.

And gets harder in a country where even the judges are political appointees and apparently that’s by design. (I resisted adding a smiley here because this is rather sad)

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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How long can we push this narrative? It was a terrible situation and I can't imagine the minutes of complete fear she must have felt. I pray for her family. But to then draw a conclusion to say this is evidence that we are in some sort of fascist decline, because of this incident, takes away from the innocent lose of life. And greatly exaggerates the skill and aptitude of the killer. People spew the fascist narrative…

Neither Renee Good or Alex Pretti or any of the other innocents that the brownshirts killed will pick strawberries ever again.

Yes I understand. And given the heaviness of the situation I could have chosen a better way to phrase that I completely disagree with it being evidence that we're on the road to fascism.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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The people that need to see this are the VPs and execs at Apple, Meta, Google, OAI so they can perhaps reflect on what it looks like to be a good & principled person as opposed to just a successful person.

Google walked out in 2018 from project Maven, which is what this is about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

The Epstein adjacent crew (Palantir) took over. Palantir was using Anthropic. No one could possibly have foreseen this. /s

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

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This is a pretty classic mistake most people who are in high-profile companies make. They think that some degree of appealing to people who were their erstwhile opponents will win them allies. But modern popular ethics are the Grim Trigger and the Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics. You cannot pass the purity test. One might even speculate that passing the purity test wouldn't do anything to get you acceptance. Pers…

> political alignment I favour was as Big Tent as Donald Trump's administration is I'm not sure how accurate this sentiment is. Your desire is to embrace your enemy without resolving the differences, and get what you want. It's not clear here if you're advocating compromise and negotiation, or just embracing for the sake of embracing while just doing what you wanted all along. And evaluating Trump's actions against t…

I think the differences in this situation were that I do not want AI used in domestic surveillance or autonomous weapons, and Anthropic holds to that position.

I think Donald Trump has pretty much let Zohran Mamdani operate without applying the kind of political pressure he has applied to other people, notably his predecessor Eric Adams. Also, I think saying "let people be your allies when they take your position" is less "grandiose and noble" than demanding someone agree on all counts before you will accept any political alignment. But it's fine if everyone else disagrees. It's possible there really just isn't a political group which will accept my views and while that's unfortunate because it means I can't get all that I want, I think it'll be okay.

One could reasonably argue that the meta-position is to either join the Republicans full-bore (somewhat unavailable to me) or to at least play the purity test game solely because that's the only way to have any influence on outcomes. If it comes to that, I'll do it.

Re: Statement on the comments from Secretary of War Pete Hegseth

#160
Many conservative commentators and Palmer Luckey have been all over Twitter saying, "it's not Anthropic's job to set policy," which reminds me of the classic tune from Tom Lehrer:

"Zee rockets go up! Who cares vhere zey come down? Zat's not my department" says Wernher von Braun.

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