LLM-ass written content about this widget nobody wants but is necessary due to bots. Fuck off and write the post yourself.
The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
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Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vast majority of websites today can and should be static, which makes even the aggressive llm scrapping non-issue.
One of the things that a lot of LLM scrapers are fetching are git repositories. They could just use git clone to fetch everything at once. But instead, they fetch them commit by commit. That's about as static as you can get, and it is absolutely NOT a non-issue.
that's a pretty niche issue, but fairly easy to solve.
Prebuild statically the most common commits (last XX) and heavily rate limit deeper ones
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#33Am I reading it right, the widget is seen 5B times per day, and they recruited 8 people for testing to make sure their “redesign would work for everyone”…?
This! The comment I was angrily about to write.
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the things that a lot of LLM scrapers are fetching are git repositories. They could just use git clone to fetch everything at once. But instead, they fetch them commit by commit. That's about as static as you can get, and it is absolutely NOT a non-issue.
No... Basically all git servers have to generate the file contents, diffs etc. on-demand because they don't store static pages for every single possible combination of view parameters. Git repositories also typically don't store full copies of all versions of a file that have ever existed either; they're incremental. You could pre-render everything statically, but that could take up gigabytes or more for any repo of…
> Git repositories also typically don't store full copies of all versions of a file that have ever existed either; they're incremental
This is wrong. Git does store full copies.
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#35CloudFlare might be good for site owners, but many times their page makes me click back to search results.
I can't be the only one.
It's slow and annoying, AI overview is good enough for me most of the times so that added time I bet makes websites lose a lot of visits.
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#36Remember when we used to care about sub 100ms page loading time and now we have introduced a best case 5 second blocker all over the place.
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#37Am I reading it right, the widget is seen 5B times per day, and they recruited 8 people for testing to make sure their “redesign would work for everyone”…?
This! The comment I was angrily about to write.
Why? Genuinely, who cares? Is some demographic group not caught in the 8 going to be offended by basic checkbox screen? Is someone with a niche form of colorblindness going to have difficulty navigating the UI?
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#38As a user of an unsigned Firefox fork, Turnstile has ruined a moderate portion of the Internet for me. The way Cloudflare doesn’t think twice about eroding user freedoms, for the sake of a gate that can be trivially bypassed with solvarr or similar, is deeply disturbing. They are no longer a force for good on the web.
How does Cloudflare know you are using the fork? Can you not just set the user agent to match firefox's (or even chrome's for that matter)
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#39> Designing a product with billions of eyeballs on it isn't just challenging — it requires a fundamentally different approach. I'm not reading this.
Their design approach wasn’t particularly unusual, so I’m not sure what that sentence means. I do miss the days when technical reports were clear and concise. This one has some interesting information, but it’s buried under a mountain of empty AI-written bloat.
It's annoying because it is a super common widget and it is interesting work, the first draft or literally even prompt they gave the AI probably would've been a great post, all they had to do was not ensloppify it...
Re: The most-seen UI on the internet? Redesigning turnstile and challenge pages
#40Will this also be accompanied by a global Turnstile outage like all the other Cloudflare services that get touched? If they end up vibeslopping the redesign like they did with this article, it may just happen.