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Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #46
nkurz wrote: post #32

Saving a draft, opening the old email, and then reopening your draft wastes valuable minutes. The new compose pops up in a window, just like chats (only larger). Minutes? I do sometimes wonder where the day goes... Alternatively, Shift-click on compose (or press capital C to with keyboard shortcuts on), and you'll get an actual window that you can move and resize. With the chat mini-windows I frequently wish that I c…

Do you know how annoying it is to have 5 gmail tabs open and have to constantly switch between them because you have email threads that you need open and then a compose window as well. And every time you switch you have to cycle through them to choose the right one? This is a daily occurrence. I hugely welcome this change.

The problem there is that you need to load an application 5 times rather than 1 time, and then opening up the separate emails in their own tab. Introducing another floaty thing that reinvents the wheel isn't the proper solution here.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by [deleted] »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #31
jsdalton wrote: post #16

I hate being the guy who sidetracks a thread off the bat by complaining about something unrelated, but... Whatever blogspot theme Google uses for this blog is just god awful (oh, I see, this is it: http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/p/as-you-may-have-noticed-gm... ), and I swear it gets worse every time I view a post there. To wit: When I load the page I see the orange "loading" gears. Then that sliiiiides up to reveal…

Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.

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Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by [deleted] »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #31
jsdalton wrote: post #16

I hate being the guy who sidetracks a thread off the bat by complaining about something unrelated, but... Whatever blogspot theme Google uses for this blog is just god awful (oh, I see, this is it: http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/p/as-you-may-have-noticed-gm... ), and I swear it gets worse every time I view a post there. To wit: When I load the page I see the orange "loading" gears. Then that sliiiiides up to reveal…

Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.

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Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by jfoutz »

s_henry_paulson wrote: post #55
jfoutz wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well... I often need to write emails with specific details from other threads. this is way way faster than save draft, search, copy, go back to draft, and paste. Maybe there's a better workflow for this problem - but the draft saving way sucks.

right-click browser tab --> duplicate

Only the most recent inbox is synched, and chat is only in the most recent as well. Unless they fixed that?

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by hollerith »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #31
jsdalton wrote: post #16

I hate being the guy who sidetracks a thread off the bat by complaining about something unrelated, but... Whatever blogspot theme Google uses for this blog is just god awful (oh, I see, this is it: http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/p/as-you-may-have-noticed-gm... ), and I swear it gets worse every time I view a post there. To wit: When I load the page I see the orange "loading" gears. Then that sliiiiides up to reveal…

Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.

Google seems to be one of the prime culprits making web pages and browsers so complicated that functions useful for reading which used to work everywhere are now broken on a significant number of pages.

Parent mentions scrolling with the space key. Another: selecting text (prior to copying it). Another: making text bigger, e.g., with the Zoom In ("+") button. Another: going to the start or end of the page. Another: scrolling without annoying or time-wasting latency.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

devbryce wrote: post #53
masklinn wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this theme great actually: it plain and simply doesn't work in Camino, which is my browser of choice, so I just blacklist any site which shows "the gear"

You blacklist a site based on that it doesn't work on a web browser that isn't even on the list of the 10 most used browsers? (src - http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php )

Displaying text articles in a cross-browser way has been a solved problem for more than a decade, the parent's browser of choice isn't to blame here.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by DanBC »

zaidf wrote: post #44
JoshTriplett wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.

That is keeping with google's newly found traditions. For example, the ajax-ing of search has mostly broken the back key among others. Shit Case 1: sometimes you do a search, find a new phrase and begin typing it only to see the phrase disappear from the original search results and replaced with updated results for an incomplete and often incoherent query. Shit Case 2: often I begin typing a new search query and real…

> I find some of these changes mind boggling and can only convince myself to accept them by tell myself "hey google looks at the numbers, may be most folks just like it". Particularly the ajax search...annoys the crap out of me and finds way to enable itself even when I disable it.

Google needs to be usable by everyone. They iterate the product to make sure that most people get good search results. But this means that some people are getting sub-optimal results, especially as Google makes changes to the way search works.

Google didn't used to use stemming. Some words are now stemmed automatically. Google didn't used to substitute words. Some words are now substituted automatically. Google used to use + to force inclusion of a word, but they've dropped that and now use quotes to "force" "inclusion" of words "or phrases".

People reading HN might think that + is easy enough to use, and "enclosing" "every" "word" in "quotes" is stupid, but Google does have the numbers. (http://insidesearch.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/search-using-your...)

> In the past, we provided users with the “+” operator to help you search for specific terms. However, we found that users typed the “+” operator in less than half a percent of all searches, and two thirds of the time, it was used incorrectly.

Check my math, but I think that means that + was used correctly in only 1 out of 600 searches.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by hnriot »

masklinn wrote: post #34
jsdalton wrote: post #16

I hate being the guy who sidetracks a thread off the bat by complaining about something unrelated, but... Whatever blogspot theme Google uses for this blog is just god awful (oh, I see, this is it: http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/p/as-you-may-have-noticed-gm... ), and I swear it gets worse every time I view a post there. To wit: When I load the page I see the orange "loading" gears. Then that sliiiiides up to reveal…

I find this theme great actually: it plain and simply doesn't work in Camino, which is my browser of choice, so I just blacklist any site which shows "the gear"

Seriously? Chrome, Firefox, Safari... etc... Time to upgrade and stop blaming the web for advancing.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

#69

Post by nuclear_eclipse »

ukoki wrote: post #35
nkurz wrote: post #32

Saving a draft, opening the old email, and then reopening your draft wastes valuable minutes. The new compose pops up in a window, just like chats (only larger). Minutes? I do sometimes wonder where the day goes... Alternatively, Shift-click on compose (or press capital C to with keyboard shortcuts on), and you'll get an actual window that you can move and resize. With the chat mini-windows I frequently wish that I c…

Also CTRL+SHIFT click compose opens a new email in a new tab (at least on Chrome on my computer).

Or just ctrl-click, or middle-click.

Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail

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Post by pkamb »

nkurz wrote: post #32

Saving a draft, opening the old email, and then reopening your draft wastes valuable minutes. The new compose pops up in a window, just like chats (only larger). Minutes? I do sometimes wonder where the day goes... Alternatively, Shift-click on compose (or press capital C to with keyboard shortcuts on), and you'll get an actual window that you can move and resize. With the chat mini-windows I frequently wish that I c…

> and you'll get an actual window that you can move and resize.

I'd do this all the time if it gave you a new tab rather than a new window. Who uses new browser windows these days?

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