Introducing the new compose in Gmail
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Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's see why : - "curing cancer" has been announced many times, and until now every proposed therapy has had at best limited success - likewise, "creating ai" has been in the news time to time. We seem to be always on the verge of true ai and the singularity, but it has not happened yet. OTOH, many people here use gmail - I do, and I have been bothered by this compose thing. To see the issue actually addressed, with…
The failed cancer cures were biomolecules. This is about literally cooking it with beams, something hackers with a few hundreds in parts could attempt to do. The AI advance is seen as an advance by Peter Norvig (head of Google Research) himself. Both of them are hacker relevant potentially profitable business with huge upsides. Real advances can be made, especially by the hacker crowd. There's too much of a web 2.0 f…
If you're more into cooking, it is something we already do with various particles - and with multiple beams to minimize damage to surrouding tissues (google for gamma knife)
It's a good thing Peter Norvig sees an advance. It'd be much better when that feeling is shared by the scientific community.
Real advances can be made, and there is indeed a web 2.0 filter here - much effort being spent on barely interesting things. The human race can do so much better.
But curing cancer, ai, whole brain emulation etc. are topics which will require a long sustained effort - if only because we are constrained by our technology!
It's not a matter of capital - these problems just can't be correctly addressed with our current technology.
It's a good thing if we are making steps in the right directions, but it's very unlikely these problems will be solved very soon, therefore my interest in news about such problems is quite low, even with a deep interest in them!
So I guess it's just natural that other readers find such things even less newsworthy :-(
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is, who uses mobile GMail? Almost everyone I know uses a native client (Android or iOS). The mobile version of Gmail is definitely a second-class citizen, but I'm glad they're not letting it hold back development of awesome features like this.
I dislike all native mail clients even more than I dislike the iOS gmail app, which is largely a hybrid web app if I'm not mistaken. I use the iOS gmail app, but what I really want is this: An app that present emails to me like iOS messages, but with some design changes to fit long content. This would allow for better context (messages are individualized and chronological) and faster, one touch responding while I'm o…
Also, the current Android GMail app sounds more or less like what you're asking for, with the messages neing collapsable.
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#44I hate being the guy who sidetracks a thread off the bat by complaining about something unrelated, but... Whatever blogspot theme Google uses for this blog is just god awful (oh, I see, this is it: http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/p/as-you-may-have-noticed-gm... ), and I swear it gets worse every time I view a post there. To wit: When I load the page I see the orange "loading" gears. Then that sliiiiides up to reveal…
Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.
Shit Case 1: sometimes you do a search, find a new phrase and begin typing it only to see the phrase disappear from the original search results and replaced with updated results for an incomplete and often incoherent query.
Shit Case 2: often I begin typing a new search query and realize mid "sentence" that the current query was fine. Well, too late. Because the results have already refreshed. Hitting the back key does little good. In best case, it doesn't work. In worst case, it will take you to the previous physical page that you were on before you came to google.
I find some of these changes mind boggling and can only convince myself to accept them by tell myself "hey google looks at the numbers, may be most folks just like it". Particularly the ajax search...annoys the crap out of me and finds way to enable itself even when I disable it.
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#45Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#46Saving a draft, opening the old email, and then reopening your draft wastes valuable minutes. The new compose pops up in a window, just like chats (only larger). Minutes? I do sometimes wonder where the day goes... Alternatively, Shift-click on compose (or press capital C to with keyboard shortcuts on), and you'll get an actual window that you can move and resize. With the chat mini-windows I frequently wish that I c…
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#47Saving a draft, opening the old email, and then reopening your draft wastes valuable minutes. The new compose pops up in a window, just like chats (only larger). Minutes? I do sometimes wonder where the day goes... Alternatively, Shift-click on compose (or press capital C to with keyboard shortcuts on), and you'll get an actual window that you can move and resize. With the chat mini-windows I frequently wish that I c…
I completely agree. We all have some sort of window manager that deals with handling multiple windows in a consistent way. We don't need every website reinventing window management in their own half-assed manner, that is utterly inconsistent with other sites and other applications.
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#48Is this really a step forward? It feels a little bit like a step backwards -- more like classic email clients and less like Gmail.
I often need to write emails with specific details from other threads. this is way way faster than save draft, search, copy, go back to draft, and paste.
Maybe there's a better workflow for this problem - but the draft saving way sucks.
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Worse yet, they've somehow broken the ability to hit space to scroll by a page.
That is keeping with google's newly found traditions. For example, the ajax-ing of search has mostly broken the back key among others. Shit Case 1: sometimes you do a search, find a new phrase and begin typing it only to see the phrase disappear from the original search results and replaced with updated results for an incomplete and often incoherent query. Shit Case 2: often I begin typing a new search query and real…
For example, let's say I found some new framework for a new language I haven't worked with. I can easily find competing frameworks by typing in something like '[framework name] vs' and Google will will suggest the most commonly compared frameworks. I think it's very useful when you don't know exactly what you are searching for. Yes, I know it has some usability issues but in my opinion the pros outweigh the cons.
Re: Introducing the new compose in Gmail
#50There, I said it.