Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
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Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#2So, if you don't run applications, does this matter? Also, enforcement is by the CA attorney general, so random people can't go after you.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#3Does it run applications? The point of the law is to collect (and device setup) the age of the (I guess primary?) user, and communicate that (as a range?) to any applications it runs. So, if you don't run applications, does this matter? Also, enforcement is by the CA attorney general, so random people can't go after you.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#4Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#5"Operating system provider" is defined, but that's kinda useless unless "operating system" is defined first.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#6(e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing that can access a covered application store or can download an application.
Also, where does anything in the CA bill mandate age verification? It's saying the OS needs to prompt for age bracket info and allow the third party apps to query that. That is far different from verification.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#7Clickbait title, the legal notice explicitly states that an open source project cannot and will not implement age verification.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#8- Does such prohibition has any legal force at all? Does it do anything to prevent responsibility according to the bill? Wouldn't just saying "CA/CO have zero jurisdiction over us, get screwed" be a saner choice (of course it would be better if the project wouldn't host on M$'s servers).
- The main project license is GPLv3. GPLv3 clearly has no provisions to introduce arbitrary prohibitions into the license without losing compatibility. But they still keep GPLv3 LICENSE.txt, which is problematic in itself - if LICENSE.txt says one thing and LEGAL-NOTICE.txt another, the conclusion might be that no license applies so no one may use the software at all!
- If they are reusing any GPL software that they don't hold copyright on, they might be or might not be in violation (would need a real lawyer to say if that's the case or not).
And on the actual matter of things, it's really sad to see California to be on the front line of this crap (this screams ageism). And, dear "adults", screw your parental authority so much. Whatever skills I've gained before the university I've done against an explicit parental prohibition. This is what I live off now. Screw you all.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#9So DB48X provides a covered application store? (e) (1) “Covered application store” means a publicly available internet website, software application, online service, or platform that distributes and facilitates the download of applications from third-party developers to users of a computer, a mobile device, or any other general purpose computing that can access a covered application store or can download an applicati…
Regardless of the technical details of the law(s), the devs are sensibly refusing to prompt for age on a fricking calculator.
Hopefully Linux distros get on board with this and announce non-CA/CO compliance as policy.
Re: Open source calculator firmware DB48X forbids CA/CO use due to age verification
#10Clickbait title, the legal notice explicitly states that an open source project cannot and will not implement age verification.
There is no carve out in the law for open source. I don’t think it matters for this calculator’s firmware, because there’s no covered App Store, but it certainly would for most Linux distributions.