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F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by echelon »

microtonal wrote: post #5
scrollop wrote: post #2

Will F-droid continue when Google bring in their changes, soon?

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

This piddly open source effort pales in comparison to what we should really be doing:

Horizontally splitting Google into multiple companies.

Not division via department splits, but equal partitioning across the company into multiple horizontal businesses that compete on the same offerings.

The EU and next DOJ/FTC need to force this.

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by TobTobXX »

scrollop wrote: post #7
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

The outlook webapp is quite decent. I've never used their native app, but I've manahed to get by fine with their webapp, even though notifications don't work (I just check it regularily). IIRC K9/Thunderbird also has support for exchange now.

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by amelius »

scrollop wrote: post #7
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

You can check banking app compatibility here:

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by wafflemaker »

sheiyei wrote: post #10
scrollop wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

Apparently a lot of banking apps work with the sandboxed Google malwares. Not sure though, I'm not a user (wrong hardware)

can confirm. And there are even some pages that list banking and other apps working on GrapheneOS. It's actually very few that don't work with sandboxed Google Play API.

edit: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by ninjasmosa »

scrollop wrote: post #7
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

The outlook app works for me on GrapheneOS, is there something about it that doesn't work for you?

Many banking apps do work on GrapheneOS, the list had already been linked to by others

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by miroljub »

microtonal wrote: post #5
scrollop wrote: post #2

Will F-droid continue when Google bring in their changes, soon?

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

GrapheneOS works only with Pixel devices, which doesn't make it much useful for the vast majority of Android users.

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by kgwxd »

scrollop wrote: post #7
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

Can you not setup your work email through a regular email client? I thought the days of being locked into Outlook specifically went away with Exchange. Everywhere I've worked since has been able to.

Also, what kind of banking are people doing that requires an app? I genuinely don't know what it could be.

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by rkagerer »

scrollop wrote: post #7
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

I don't much like the official Outlook app. Been using Nine for ages, it does everything I've needed.

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by microtonal »

sheiyei wrote: post #10
scrollop wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

Apparently a lot of banking apps work with the sandboxed Google malwares. Not sure though, I'm not a user (wrong hardware)

Correct. I am using my Dutch bank and credit card apps without any issues. Someone linked the curated GrapheneOS banking list already. If your bank does not support it, you could either contact them. If they require remote attestation, this can be implemented for GrapheneOS as well:

https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...

If the bank is very hard-nosed about it, you could consider keeping an old iPhone or Pixel (because long security updates) for banking if it is practical to do for you. 95% without big tech is also a big win. Of course, if you need to have it with you at all times, that might not be a worthwhile option.

Re: F-Droid Board of Directors nominations 2026

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Post by microtonal »

miroljub wrote: post #16
microtonal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS. If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

GrapheneOS works only with Pixel devices, which doesn't make it much useful for the vast majority of Android users.

Indeed. Sadly the reality is that most other Android devices are simply not secure enough. Many Android phones do not have a separate secure enclave (outside Pixel and IISC Samsung flagship and A5x range), so they are vulnerable to breaking PIN-based unlocking, side channel attacks, etc. Besides that they often only provide old vendor kernel trees, old firmware blobs, etc.

So, you have to wonder whether you want such a phone anyway if you care about security and privacy. If you don't care about security anyway, you could as well run /e/OS, etc.

Above-mentioned Samsung phones could perhaps make the cut, but don't support unlocking anymore (and when they still did, would blow a Knox eFuse).

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