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Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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It's not named the Department of War because Congress didn't rename it. Other than that, good on ya.

While I agree the name change has not (yet) been made with the proper authority, I'm quite partial to the name and prefer to use it despite its prematurity. I think it does a better job of communicating the types of work actually done by the department and rightly gives people pause about their support of it. Though I'm sure that wasn't the administration's intention.

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Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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As a "foreign national", what's the deal with making the distinction between domestic mass surveillance and foreign mass surveillance? Are there no democracies aside from the US? Don't we know since Snowden that if the US wants to do domestic surveillance they'll just ask GCHQ to share their "foreign" surveillance capabilities?

>Are there no democracies aside from the US?

If we're asking "What's the deal" questions, what's the deal with this question? Do only people in democracies deserve protections? If we believe foreign nationals deserve privacy, why should that only apply to people living in democracies?

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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This is such a depressing read. What is becoming of the USA? Let's hope sanity prevails and the next election cycle can bring in some competent non-grievance based leadership.

You mean, what's been happening to the USA? this isn't a new trend. Militarization of police, open attacks on democracy, unilateral foreign policy moves.

the country jumped the shark post 9/11 and has been on a slow rot since then.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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It's not named the Department of War because Congress didn't rename it. Other than that, good on ya.

It's addressed to Hegseth, who insists on calling it that. If they had called it DoD, then that would have been another finger in his eye.

Maybe this is the DoW Pam Bondi was referring to.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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post #50

A significant part of Anthropic's cachet as an employer is the ethical stance they profess to take. This is no doubt a tough spot to be in, but it's hard to see Dario making any other decision here. What I don't understand is why Hegseth pushed the issue to an ultimatum like this. They say they're not trying to use Claude for domestic mass surveillance or autonomous weapons. If so, what does the Department of War hav…

He pushed the issue to an ultimatum because he is an unqualified drunk, and thinks that it's against the law for anyone to try and stop the US military from doing something they want to do. This isn't an isolated issue; he tried to get multiple US Senators prosecuted for making a PSA that servicemembers shouldn't follow illegal orders.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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Anthropic wants regulatory capture to advantage itself as it hypes its products capabilities and then acts surprised when the Pentagon takes their grand claims about their products seriously as it threatens government intervention.

This is why people should support open models.

When the AI bubble collapses these EA cultists will be seen as some of the biggest charlatans of all time.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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It's not named the Department of War because Congress didn't rename it. Other than that, good on ya.

It's addressed to Hegseth, who insists on calling it that. If they had called it DoD, then that would have been another finger in his eye.

This. They even put a "wArFiGhTers" in there.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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Idk if the reporting was just biased before, but from what I saw is that this time last week, it was thought you couldn't use Anthropic to bring about harm, and now they're making it clear that they just don't want it used domestically and not fully autonomously. Like maybe it always was just this, but I feel every article I read, regardless of the spin angle, implied do no harm was pretty much one of the rules.

those two stipulations were always their only ones, and they were included explicitly in their original contract with the DoW.

Re: Statement from Dario Amodei on our discussions with the Department of War

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post #56
post #41

Department of War is just such a fucking joke title - when has the US stooped so low, I used to believe in you guys as the force of good on this planet smh

I'm 33 years old, would you mind telling me which year you thought this was, force of good stuff? might be before my time genuinely curious, I got nothing

The USA were pretty clearly on the "better side" of conflicts in 1941-1945, during the Cold War (at least as far as Europe and the Marshall plan was concerned). In Koweït and central Europe during the 90s. You may even argue for Afghanistan post 9-11 (although the state building was botched.) in the 2000s. ISIS is a footnote in history because of US intervention (from Trump first term, of all things.) And Ukraine would not be against getting the support it had in 2022 back under Trump.

Does not mean that very bad things were not happening at the same time.

But it's definitely easier to find some "supportable" interventions from the US than, say, Russia or China.

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