Live data from Hacker News

Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

blog.google

251–260 of 593 posts

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#252

I'm sure this has been written about but here's what happens long term - images are commoditized and lose their emotional appeal. Probably about half of us here remember photos before the cell phone era. They were rare, and special, and you'd have a few photos per YEAR to look back on. The feel of photos back then, was at least 100x stronger than now. They were a special item, could be given as a gift. But once they…

> images are commoditized and lose their emotional appeal. No, ALL CONTENT is asymptotically approaching 0. This includes photos, videos, stories, app features, even code. Code is now worthless. If you want better security from generated code, wait 2 months and it will be better. If you want a photo, you just prompt and it will generate it on the fly. AI will be generating movies and videos on the fly, either legally…

> AI will be generating movies and videos on the fly, either legally or illegally infringing on IP.

> If you want to see a photo of you and your family from 15 years ago, it will generate slightly better versions of yourself and your wife and maximize how cute your kids look.

Sure, but why would any of this media have any emotional significance?

The reason we enjoy media of friends and family is because it depicts a moment in the life of our loved ones. A fake image or video of them is of absolutely zero value to anyone.

The reason we enjoy cinema is because a talented group of people had an interesting story to tell and brought it to life in a memorable way. Me, or a random person with no filmmaking talent, prompting a tool to generate a particular scene wouldn't be interesting at all. Talented individuals will also rely on this technology, of course, but a demand for human creativity will still exist, possibly even stronger than today, once everyone is exhausted from the flood of shitty Deadpool vs Hulk videos.

I suspect the same will eventually happen with every other product these tools are currently commoditizing, including software.

All of this seems like a neat technology in search of a problem to solve, while actually introducing countless societal problems we haven't even begun to acknowledge, let alone address. But it sure is a great money and power grab opportunity for giant corporations to further extend their reach. And they have the gall to tell us it will bring world prosperity. Most of these sociopathic assholes should be prosecuted and jailed. And you, dear reader who is generously employed by these companies, are complacent with all of this.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#253
post #204
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still buy a Polaroid, there is one factory left in the world able to produce the film required but they still make them.

“Still” isn’t the right word. Once Polaroid stopped making the film, closed their factories, and sold or junked their machines, their supplies did the same, and so some of the components stopped being manufactured and available for purchase. What’s sold now as Polaroid film was a reinvention of the same idea. And it’s notably not as good. The dwindling stock of unused true Polaroid film is getting absurdly expensive…

Yeah I know but it's still incredible that we have something like that in 2026 being produced.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#254

I'm sure this has been written about but here's what happens long term - images are commoditized and lose their emotional appeal. Probably about half of us here remember photos before the cell phone era. They were rare, and special, and you'd have a few photos per YEAR to look back on. The feel of photos back then, was at least 100x stronger than now. They were a special item, could be given as a gift. But once they…

https://medium.com/luminasticity/art-as-a-tool-for-storing-m...

"One of the primary properties of anything with Mana is a feeling of uniqueness. That one has never encountered something like this before, and therefore it is important. The uniqueness of the thing is a property that pulls you in to focus more closely, to attempt to understand more closely why the thing is unique."

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#255

What a great thing this didn't exist in the past. We likely wouldn't have had any of the amazing artworks that we have now. Imagine an AI generated Mona Lisa, Nightwatch or Sistine Chapel ceiling because prompting would have been so much cheaper than paying Leonardo, Rembrandt or Michelangelo... Now extrapolate to all other artforms. Sculpture seems safe, for now, but only barely so.

I disagree. On the one hand, yeah, On This Day... 1776 is terrible, and it is sad to compare it to Requiem for a Dream or Pi, but even in this age where AI is available, we see tons of critically successful art being made without the use of AI.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#256

The Chinese are so much ahead in this space, their models are way better at this stuff. For example, https://hunyuan.tencent.com/image/en?tabIndex=0 and https://seed.bytedance.com/en/seedream5_0_lite

When it comes to image prompts, Seedream is far behind Nano Banana. "Far behind" is a ridiculous understatement here, btw.

Afaik the only real competitor is Riverflow V2.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#257
post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They were rare, and special, and you'd have a few photos per YEAR to look back on. The feel of photos back then, was at least 100x stronger than now. [...] But once they became freely available that same amount of emotion is now split across many thousands of photos I don't think I fully agree. Sure people make so many photo's that they don't have the time or the will to start looking through them all. You can't ju…

So now the value is created through curation. Before it was inherent at creation. If you never curate it might seem like it lost value in comparison.

Curation was implicit when the cost of image creation was high and authors had to consider the photos they were taking beforehand. Now curation comes afterward.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#258

Since talking images, are there any AI models that can output real transparent gifs/pngs? And not a (botched) fake white/gray grid background that is commonly used to visualize transparency?

ChatGPT's image generator has been able to do this since last year. That NBP still can't is baffling. They should at least train it to respond to requests for transparency with a solid colour pink background.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#259
post #43

What a great thing this didn't exist in the past. We likely wouldn't have had any of the amazing artworks that we have now. Imagine an AI generated Mona Lisa, Nightwatch or Sistine Chapel ceiling because prompting would have been so much cheaper than paying Leonardo, Rembrandt or Michelangelo... Now extrapolate to all other artforms. Sculpture seems safe, for now, but only barely so.

I feel like the complete opposite is true. Artists aren't doing it for the money. With advanced tools like these they wouldve iterated much faster and created much grander designs. Art is about pushing limits of what's possible and AI just raises those limits.

Taste is not scaleable.

Re: Nano Banana 2: Google's latest AI image generation model

#260
post #184

I'm sure this has been written about but here's what happens long term - images are commoditized and lose their emotional appeal. Probably about half of us here remember photos before the cell phone era. They were rare, and special, and you'd have a few photos per YEAR to look back on. The feel of photos back then, was at least 100x stronger than now. They were a special item, could be given as a gift. But once they…

> They were rare, and special, and you'd have a few photos per YEAR to look back on. The feel of photos back then, was at least 100x stronger than now. [...] But once they became freely available that same amount of emotion is now split across many thousands of photos I don't think I fully agree. Sure people make so many photo's that they don't have the time or the will to start looking through them all. You can't ju…

And there’s software to help you with that. For example, using faces, time stamps and GPS info iOS creates collections for you.

Yes, it’s crude, and you have to do the face tagging, but I think it’s a huge improvement over not having that.

Post reply on HN