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Re: What makes something "notable"?

#22

They really should make this open source and switch to community model of development. Same thing I've seen with Rebol. Freeware but closed source = no trust from users.

It is kinda sad. The performance of his stack is second to none (in my testing he undersells it). I really do like configuration via directory structure, and it has various cool tooling in it.

That said, yeah, the freeware / closed source seems to be the worst combo. But who would buy a web server they couldn't test first?

Also, the guys crazy (ala Tesla, crazy smart) personality is allowed to shine though on his site. He needs a marketing person to keep him the hell away from the customers. Make an ultra cheap or developers "trail" (no freeware), etc.

Re: What makes something "notable"?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I see developers swear by it like a religion regularly. To me, that signals there is at least something fishy about the technology. I'm not saying Node is bad, but I sincerely have the impression that a large majority of developers who like Node.js are mainly using it because it's 'hot technology' right now, not because it fits their technology problem so well. Event-based asynchronous servers are nice for some thi…

Node is not everything to everyone, but for a lot of people, it's the right technology at the right time. - Easy to install and use, especially for hordes of client side developers. - Easy to manage packages and dependencies via npm. - Fast and scalable for writing logic around data transportation.

I would say Python frameworks like Flask or Pyramid offer the first 2 benefits as well, and when used properly in combination with a caching proxy and container server that allows asynchronous processing the 3rd benefit too. So they are not unique to Node.js although out-of-the-box, as a standalone application server, Node will be faster.

Which leaves the 'JavaScript comfort zone' as the main driver of Node popularity, which while understandable, IMO isn't exactly a technological benefit, rather a downside (I don't like JavaScript, at all).

Re: What makes something "notable"?

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I've seen some comments/postings to HN about g-wan, and I still can't work out if it's some really elaborate troll or not. Has anyone played with it? I can't imagine that this very strange license section in the FAQ: http://gwan.ch/faq#license , is going to help people want to try it! edit Grammar

It isn't a troll, the performance numbers are real and it is a fairly slick product.

Bad marketing, bad licensing, crazy (ala Tesla) developer and owner being allowed to dump his brain onto the corporate site are the main problems.

When we deep dove on it, we were driven off by the site oddities and authors nonsense more than the tech (which impressed us) -- but you don't put your corporation in the hands of crazy -- even with "Source Insurance" (which is a great idea, but needs a little more explanation for US lawyers).

That said, I am reviewing it again because I am dealing with an actual CPU bound problem domain.

Re: What makes something "notable"?

#26

Lol, nice try at a bit of self-promotion there. This guy obviously doesn't know node. He's comparing node.js to a dedicated webserver, when they are completely different things.

Agreed - the article content is misleading at best..and some of the other comments on this thread smell like astroturf.

Re: What makes something "notable"?

#27

I modded this submission up not because I agree with it but because I want a discussion. The G-WAN author has been known being... confident. He claims to be faster and more scalable than Nginx by a significant factor. He attributes the speed partially to the fact that his code contains few branches, where he defines even function calls as branches. Both statements are bold claims, and I can only imagine how it would…

I wrote my feelings here: http://www.codingnot.es/why-i-ll-never-trust-g-wan/

Re: What makes something "notable"?

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I hear this a lot. Node.js seems to have gained quite a bit of popularity though, I see developers swear by it like a religion regularly.

> I see developers swear by it like a religion regularly. To me, that signals there is at least something fishy about the technology. I'm not saying Node is bad, but I sincerely have the impression that a large majority of developers who like Node.js are mainly using it because it's 'hot technology' right now, not because it fits their technology problem so well. Event-based asynchronous servers are nice for some thi…

> To me, that signals there is at least something fishy about the technology.

> I'm not saying Node is bad, but...

You're giving off slightly mixed messages there.

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