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Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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It's under the Live tab of Wolfram's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WolframResearch/streams Sessions are called Live CEOing, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id0KH0sfHI8

Thanks, I should have linked. Also he cross-posts to his site: https://livestreams.stephenwolfram.com/category/live-ceoing/ The next one is today, 4:30 PM ET!

Thank you!!

Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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If that was really going to be the case then we wouldn't be having this discussion, there would already be an open source streaking ahead.

Have you seen a little piece of software called Python that basically single-handedly ushered the age of AI? What did Wolfram do except playing toys in his high walled sandbox? Figuratively half of the comments under this post are "I guess it's cute but I can't see anything in there that I couldn't do with Python".

Yet people are still paying for Mathematica and you are calling for it to be open sourced.

If the open source was so great what Wolfram did would be irrelevant.

Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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Academic institutions already pay salaries whether they fund open source development or Wolfram Research, so not sure what you’re trying to argue. People haven’t been starving while doing research in the open.

But academic institutions didn’t produce Mathematica. The point is simple: a lot of useful software like Mathematica has not been open-source for a reason. It is not about distribution being free; it is about production being expensive.

Some form of Mathematica has been open for a long time, in the form of Sage etc. There's no reason why academic institutions can't pool more money to develop these further.

Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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Have you seen a little piece of software called Python that basically single-handedly ushered the age of AI? What did Wolfram do except playing toys in his high walled sandbox? Figuratively half of the comments under this post are "I guess it's cute but I can't see anything in there that I couldn't do with Python".

Yet people are still paying for Mathematica and you are calling for it to be open sourced. If the open source was so great what Wolfram did would be irrelevant.

People pay for so many idiotic and irrelevant things that this is barely an argument in context of any other than hustling. Especially if you consider corporations and institutions to be "people".

For all of Wolfram hubris, Mathematica is just the third kind on the block, after Matlab and Maple. With his ambitions he was obviously aiming for something more culturally relevant.

Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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so no money then? what i said

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Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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Currency requires trade to generate tax revenue, and is like holding a bucket of water with a hole in the bottom. Folks could nationalize gold reserves >1oz like the US did to exit the depression, publish holding-company investment owners, tax investment properties at 6% of assessed value every year, and pass a right-of-first-sale to citizens regardless of bid amount on residential zoned estates like Singapore. One m…

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Part of the inferred problem is a lack of respect for others, because some simply don't respect themselves. This was part of the PSA workable measures video.

Note, we also still buy inexpensive private insurance coverage mostly for travel, as it is tax deductible unlike the public coverage.

You should get outside for a walk, and meet real people. =3

Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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post #183

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But academic institutions didn’t produce Mathematica. The point is simple: a lot of useful software like Mathematica has not been open-source for a reason. It is not about distribution being free; it is about production being expensive.

Some form of Mathematica has been open for a long time, in the form of Sage etc. There's no reason why academic institutions can't pool more money to develop these further.

Sage is a nice effort, but it isn't Mathematica. I use Mathematica, I don't use Sage. Academic institutions had almost 40 years to "pool more money", yet there is nothing that rivals Mathematica. The reason is simple: open-source doesn't pay well enough.

Re: Making Wolfram tech available as a foundation tool for LLM systems

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Part of the inferred problem is a lack of respect for others, because some simply don't respect themselves. This was part of the PSA workable measures video. Note, we also still buy inexpensive private insurance coverage mostly for travel, as it is tax deductible unlike the public coverage. You should get outside for a walk, and meet real people. =3

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