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Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

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Post by t1234s »

chadpaulson wrote: post #39
hyperbovine wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cooking with it at normal fry pan temperatures (350-400f) is safe, this has been repeatedly confirmed in experiments, some not even funded by DuPont. Don’t do crazy things like really high temp searing and don’t use metal utensils that cause the coating to flake off. Also if you’re really concerned ceramic nonstick + oil has come a long way. And I should add the the most nonstick pan I own is actually a properly seas…

I've heard good things about carbon steel. Particularly, nitrided carbon steel. The pans are treated to be non-stick and are safe. It's what Alton Brown, the host of Food Network's Good Eats who also just launched a new cooking show on YouTube, uses.

Alton Brown had the best cooking show that ever existed. It was maximal knowledge with minimal BS (compared to most other TV shows in this space).

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Post by ricardo81 »

harmonics wrote: post #55
ricardo81 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A necessary (?) part of progress IMO. Environmental hazards have been a thing for a lot longer too. Settlements used to be covered in smog due to coal fires for example. Part of the environmental/emissions argument from developing countries is about past emissions by developed countries. I think it's a fair argument to say given these sacrifices made by past generations in industrialised countries + the benefit of de…

> Settlements used to be covered in smog due to coal fires for example. Used to? Lots of them still are. Right now there's 150 µg/m³ of PM2.5 outside my window, and it's a "clean" day. Yesterday's concentrations were up to 900 µg (yes, that's correct), and the highest I've seen this winter were 2000 µg (yes, this is also correct). And it keeps getting worse, recently our so-called president mentioned that coal is our…

I was thinking more localised. When legislation changes happened (here in the UK) the problem disappeared quickly. The UK being an industrialised country in the context of the parent comments.

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Post by OutOfHere »

lm28469 wrote: post #59
OutOfHere wrote: post #42

Consuming fiber daily, e.g. psyllium husk, is another way to lower some types of PFAS from the body, although not all types of PFAS are going to mix into bile to facilitate this excretion. The way this works is that some PFAS dissolves in bile which binds to psyllium which is excreted. Remember, 5g psyllium should be taken with 20 fl oz water, mixed and consumed immediately before it gels. Do not take it two hours be…

> psyllium husk If you can source clean psyllium, the bulk of it comes from India and let's say they have different standards when it comes to lead/pesticides and regulations in general

I get the USDA Organic one which should handle the pesticides issue. I have asked the vendor to ensure the vendor test for heavy metals.

Note that psyllium is unique in that not only does it not absorb, but it also binds to everything on the way out, so the risk is low. Fwiw, I have had blood and urine tests for lead twice.

Finally, it's not as if the US is great with pesticides. We literally deliberately include PFAS in our pesticides.

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steveBK123 wrote: post #35
9999_points wrote: post #25

I assume a lot of people 50+ were exposed to a lot more lead and cigarette smoke than younger people.

Yes, for those under 30 you have no idea how normalized smoking was right thru the 90s. Restaurants reeked of it, bars more so. A ridiculous percent of men smoked. I have memories of being quite young sitting in a relatives lap at a baseball game while they smoked. Or my coach in little league smoking a pipe in the dugout filled with 11 year olds.

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Post by steinvakt2 »

Bender wrote: post #48
amelius wrote: post #7

There's this theory that you can dilute the chemicals by doing frequent blood donations.

Does the recipient get the forever chemicals or is there filtration processing that removes them?

The recipient will get the forever chemicals, but they survive due to the blood transfer, so in a few weeks they can donate and get rid of the chemicals.

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Post by AceyMan »

ramon156 wrote: post #37
amelius wrote: post #7

There's this theory that you can dilute the chemicals by doing frequent blood donations.

Its kind of funny that a lot of issues I had seemed to not be present when I was donating. Then I took finasteride and now I'm not allowed to donate anymore...

Finasteride, in the US at least, has only a 30 day refractory period. My MD let's me stop for 30 days so I can donate, then resume the regimen.

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Post by fnordpiglet »

hurubaw wrote: post #6

People born before the 1980 are also of significantly lower IQ up to a 7-8 points due to leaded gas use. The boomers and gen X really did a number on themselves with environmental hazards.

Gen X also gave you the web, google, facebook, YouTube, twitter, and additive algorithmic brain rot. So who got the better deal?

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Post by Goronmon »

steveBK123 wrote: post #35
9999_points wrote: post #25

I assume a lot of people 50+ were exposed to a lot more lead and cigarette smoke than younger people.

Yes, for those under 30 you have no idea how normalized smoking was right thru the 90s. Restaurants reeked of it, bars more so. A ridiculous percent of men smoked. I have memories of being quite young sitting in a relatives lap at a baseball game while they smoked. Or my coach in little league smoking a pipe in the dugout filled with 11 year olds.

Every vehicle came with an electric lighter and plenty of ash trays. One of the more common crafts kids used to do was making ash trays for their parents.
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