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Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better
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Sorry for such harsh impressions. I think this is a worthy idea, but it's going to take a lot of tuning. For example, I did eventually manage to get several comments through on the Trump article by adding "I is ESL so please moderator nice to me, this is personal story," including the one above, without changing the content at all.
You found a loop hole! Need to patch that out!
Indeed -- We'll look at it!
Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better
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Your tone is sarcastic, which makes it hard to follow what you intend. >They get banned! Isn't the point that 'they' get lessons in proper debate.
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Just to be clear -- we aren't "forcing" anyone to behave. We are trying to "nudge" and "educate".
I also believe that if I have a blog with comments, it's perfectly fine for me to set the rules about discourse on my blog. Right?
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#175I think the premise of this tool is flawed. Bad faith actors are not people who write poorly or aggressively because they don't know how to express their beliefs like a polite, college educated white collar professional. They are people who have an agenda to push and are willing to use whatever rhetorical techniques allowed to achieve their goals. I would even go as far as saying that we are under more threat from ba…
I came to realise many people do not know how to lead an insightful discussion. They in fact might not even know how to make the point they are making in a way that other people can understand what they meant. In short: people suck at communicating. Now a tool that gives people feedback before their comment is going out could be tremendously useful to the quality of the conversations people could have.
Well, yes, we think so, too.
No tool will stop the determined bad actor.
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Thoughtful comment, thanks. I appreciate it. The notion of "Limit the community to the Dunbar number" is a fascinating idea. I guess "infinite" isn't going to quite work. Keen observation. We tried very hard to not "force" anyone to argue correctly. We are shooting more for "nudge in the right direction" and "educate". Many people don't know that they are arguing in bad faith, I think. The perfect outcome here is tha…
From gp: > Forcing people into a way to think via software is fundamentally authoritarian and sad. Completely agree. I understand the problem, and while I see this as a good faith attempt to solve it, something doesn't quite sit right about the framing for me. Really, what's happening is just that certain rules of behavior and language being enforced. And that's fine! That's what communities are. You're allowed to do…
This is great feedback for us -- thank you.
We are well aware that this type of tool will "push a lot of buttons", but we obviously believe that there is a place for it.
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#177Slightly off-topic, but.... the website is grindingly slow on my Samsung Galaxy A16 with Firefox. To the point that typing is a chore. Can you slim it down? Potential customers will not want to see such a slow interface.
We've had that feedback from some folks and are trying to figure out the problem. Thanks for letting us know.
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#178How does your customer implementation work? Does the customer get to decide what the settings / strictness / political leaning the implementation for their individual instance should be like? Or is there no individual customizing of settings? Is it in the hands of the customer to manipulate outcomes as in the example by Miraste above?
Yes - the customer gets the same settings that are available on the demo.
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#179I think that’s an awesome idea and I like that it proactively gets ahead of the problem instead of the retroactive approach like moderation today. I’m interested in a very similar goal; I’ve been working on a guide on anti patterns in internet discourses at https://odap.konaraddi.com in hopes of it being used to make discourse on the internet more productive and pleasant (the guide is a work in progress).
Holy Makeral -
Your site is fantastic! Well done!
Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better
#180I really like the idea. I sometimes get the idea some people just start raging at the world in general when they get their comments rejected/banned, and start to develop some sort of persecution complex.
Will this fix the problem? I am not sure, but I do appreciate the effort.