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Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better

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Post by dcanelhas »

tacitusarc wrote: post #132
vintagedave wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dave here -- I've tweaked a bunch of the internal rules during the HN discussion today, and your comment now passes (using the default settings.) As for equivocation, that should be strongly dialed down too. It annoyed me too, it was "mush", and did not help. I hope you'll find the current version a lot more human. I'm grateful for the feedback! Changing it based on all these comments has been intense over the past c…

Perhaps in keeping with age-old internet behaviors, it completely fails to recognize sarcasm.

How shocking!

Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better

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Post by hvb2 »

tacitusarc wrote: post #132
vintagedave wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dave here -- I've tweaked a bunch of the internal rules during the HN discussion today, and your comment now passes (using the default settings.) As for equivocation, that should be strongly dialed down too. It annoyed me too, it was "mush", and did not help. I hope you'll find the current version a lot more human. I'm grateful for the feedback! Changing it based on all these comments has been intense over the past c…

Perhaps in keeping with age-old internet behaviors, it completely fails to recognize sarcasm.

That's understandable, humans do in many cases too

Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better

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Post by [deleted] »

parpfish wrote: post #120
pibaker wrote: post #117

I think the premise of this tool is flawed. Bad faith actors are not people who write poorly or aggressively because they don't know how to express their beliefs like a polite, college educated white collar professional. They are people who have an agenda to push and are willing to use whatever rhetorical techniques allowed to achieve their goals. I would even go as far as saying that we are under more threat from ba…

agreed, this just seems like a tool to make people more effective at sea-lioning[0]. i'd prefer if the trolls in my life retained the superficial appearance of trolls to make them easier to spot. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better

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Post by bartvk »

arjie wrote: post #73

I think the better model is to just block everyone who isn't useful to communicate with. For instance the top of this HN page reads (for me): 68 comments | 11 hidden | 3 blocked The hidden comments are from people in the Top 1000 by word count (who I usually don't want to hear from but if there is not much content I might click to toggle). The blocked are people I've seen argue with others in a useless way because th…

Slashdot has this, where you have friends/enemies, and friends/enemies-of-friends. I heavily used it, but interestingly have never made an enemy of enemies-of-friends.

Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better

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Post by 7bit »

pibaker wrote: post #117

I think the premise of this tool is flawed. Bad faith actors are not people who write poorly or aggressively because they don't know how to express their beliefs like a polite, college educated white collar professional. They are people who have an agenda to push and are willing to use whatever rhetorical techniques allowed to achieve their goals. I would even go as far as saying that we are under more threat from ba…

Trolls are neither eloquent nor especially intelligent. They just love to provoke anger in people.

The kind of people you describe are much, much more evil.

Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better

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Post by frm88 »

How does your customer implementation work? Does the customer get to decide what the settings / strictness / political leaning the implementation for their individual instance should be like? Or is there no individual customizing of settings? Is it in the hands of the customer to manipulate outcomes as in the example by Miraste above?
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