Seems like you need this when you don't have agency to go find your preferred online group(s) which might be tied to larger personal challenges in healthy communication and productive conflict. I don't know how tech solves that problem. The broad use case here would just create a new "respectified" category where members (assuming they have the attention span to be guided on comments) try to conform. I suppose that could be helpful in hyper-local or team-level contexts where there is a shared interest to conform around.
Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better
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#43I was hoping 'respectify' could mean respect for the users. This is a very important problem space. Maybe the most important today - we desprately need a digital third place that isn't awful. But I think these attempts are misled. The core issue seems to be that we want our communities to be infinite. Why? Well, because there is currently no way to solve the community discoverability problem without being the massive…
Thoughtful comment, thanks. I appreciate it.
The notion of "Limit the community to the Dunbar number" is a fascinating idea. I guess "infinite" isn't going to quite work. Keen observation.
We tried very hard to not "force" anyone to argue correctly. We are shooting more for "nudge in the right direction" and "educate". Many people don't know that they are arguing in bad faith, I think.
The perfect outcome here is that a community/blogger can, with minimal effort, have engaging, interesting conversations without much effort and without having to worry about things getting hijacked by unpleasant commenters.
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#44Everything is a dogwhistle.
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If that is happening, that is a huge problem. We'll look at that right away. We specifically don't want that to be the case. We want to encourage healthy, productive debate. We may have the "dog-whistle" stuff over tuned.
the dog whistle tuning is absolutely over the top in its default setting.
Just turned it way down. I hope you find it better now!
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#46Everything is a dogwhistle.
"This comment appears to dismiss the complexity of discussions about dogwhistles by claiming that 'everything is a dogwhistle.' This type of blanket statement can undermine the seriousness of genuinely harmful coded language, and can trivialize valid concerns about discrimination and manipulation in discourse."
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Double standard, or legitimate difference? Maybe Trump empirically sucks more? (This is the sort of debate I really don't think tooling can fix.)
Ignoring what is hopefully sarcasm on the empirical part, it's a double standard because it assumes that saying Obama sucks must be a dogwhistle and tied to undertones of racism. "Dogwhistle The phrase "Obama sucks" can be interpreted as more than just a simple critique of a political figure; it has been used to express racist sentiments by implying that a Black president is less capable or worthy of respect. This re…
I would think/hope that both of those comments would be flagged with even a small amount of moderation set.
Avoiding that kind of comment is exactly what we are trying to do, actually.
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Ignoring what is hopefully sarcasm on the empirical part, it's a double standard because it assumes that saying Obama sucks must be a dogwhistle and tied to undertones of racism. "Dogwhistle The phrase "Obama sucks" can be interpreted as more than just a simple critique of a political figure; it has been used to express racist sentiments by implying that a Black president is less capable or worthy of respect. This re…
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In other opinion polls they back up that he doesn't suck. Either way who cares? That's not what the app is supposed to be about if it's teaching/correcting you how to argue/debate better.
You completely ignored the whole point of what I said, which is that even in a simple statement like "This person sucks" it added its own implicit connotations, namely that disliking someone who happens to be black is implicit racism. Imagine trying to learn how to really argue with that kind of teacher.
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Perhaps this is my professional deformation, but when I visit a website, I start with the Privacy page.
I get that -- good idea, actually. Would that we all did that. For the record, we store zero comments from anyone. If you are using Respectify, we'll know the URL of your site and that is it. All comments are processed and completely forgotten. I'll get the TOS and the Privacy Policy improved/updated.
> All comments are processed and completely forgotten.
This is secure in terms of privacy but not safe in terms of operations, because if it gets even a little scale, your demo will soon enough be used to fine-tune spam comments for free.
Re: Show HN: Respectify – A comment moderator that teaches people to argue better
#50Seems like you need this when you don't have agency to go find your preferred online group(s) which might be tied to larger personal challenges in healthy communication and productive conflict. I don't know how tech solves that problem. The broad use case here would just create a new "respectified" category where members (assuming they have the attention span to be guided on comments) try to conform. I suppose that c…
Our "target market" right now is a blogger that would like to turn on comments, but has turned them off because they get toxic really quickly.