Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Why isn't LA repaving streets?

lapublicpress.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 327 posts

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#51

Post by cucumber3732842 »

fsckboy wrote: post #47
djoldman wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting! Is it possible to make the ramps offsite and then fit into place? EDIT: I'm assuming the difficulty here is the pedestrian ramps at intersections. NOT the curb that spans the entirety of a road section.

I don't know what you mean, but I belive we're talking about "wheelchair ramps" at street corners some of the laws mandating that type of thing specify "if/when you renovate something, you need to bring it up to code, otherwise you can skate on the code" this affects a lot of the little tiny shops in NYC. if you change your facade or bathrooms, they need to be made accessible. however, it's not the cost of renovation…

Around here real estate listings are starting to not do interior pictures because the towns are known to predate on them for "hey you didn't get a permit for that bathroom reno" type crap.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#52

Post by atleastoptimal »

stock_toaster wrote: post #38

Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs just so automakers can skirt emissions and fuel economy requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm4de6-eTg

People buy SUV's because they want to avoid being injured in crashes (at the detriment of the other driver)

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#54

Post by Freedom2 »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #52
stock_toaster wrote: post #38

Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs just so automakers can skirt emissions and fuel economy requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm4de6-eTg

People buy SUV's because they want to avoid being injured in crashes (at the detriment of the other driver)

Yet per capita, US vehicle occupants are more likely to be injured in general while on the road than Europeans. Perhaps the driving standards are just far too different.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#56

Post by el_nahual »

stock_toaster wrote: post #38

Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs just so automakers can skirt emissions and fuel economy requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm4de6-eTg

For people that don't watch the video (I don't even know if this is in the video): road wear is a function of axle weight to the fourth power. [0]

That means a 6,000lb escalade creates 3x the road wear than a 4,500 wagoneer from 1990.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#57

Post by bigbadfeline »

stock_toaster wrote: post #38

Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs just so automakers can skirt emissions and fuel economy requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm4de6-eTg

> Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs

Maybe not.

Due to battery weight, EVs are super heavy even if they aren't SUVs, so are delivery trucks without which an urban community cannot and will not exist. Urban roads should be able to handle the weight even if everyone converted to EVs.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#58

Post by tjwebbnorfolk »

stock_toaster wrote: post #38

Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs just so automakers can skirt emissions and fuel economy requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm4de6-eTg

A lot of EVs are heavier than SUVs... but don't let facts get in the way of your crusade.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#59

Post by deepsun »

stock_toaster wrote: post #38

Maybe roads would last longer if we weren't all being forced to buy super heavy SUVs just so automakers can skirt emissions and fuel economy requirements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPm4de6-eTg

I've heard that cars have negligible impact on roads. 99% damage comes from heavy haul trucks, especially those who violate weight restrictions.

By the way, I've never seen SCALES OPEN sign for the trucks, it's always SCALES CLOSED, or maybe I'm just extremely unlucky.

Re: Why isn't LA repaving streets?

#60

Post by boredatoms »

mobilene wrote: post #35

We do the same here in Indianapolis and my read is that it's about cost containment. Our tax base here really doesn't fully support city services. And then more people move to the high-tax-base suburbs for better services, and the cycle repeats and gets worse.

This means that the divisions of administration are too small. Perhaps it should just a be county level or even state level concern
Post reply on HN