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Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by overfeed »

axus wrote: post #261
jeroenhd wrote: post #112

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This is 100% on Radix, not on Google. Google and Microsoft can (and probably should) have a registry of known-abusive websites. False positives are inevitable, so these should be taken with a grain of salt, but in most cases they're correct. Their lists are a lot more reliable than those from the "traditional" antivirus/anti-scam vendors that will list anything remotely strange to pump up their numbers. The external…

I read your comment as agreeing with the article: "Never buy a .online domain". And Google has the right to publish a list, there should be more lists not less. But Google was at fault for not correcting their blacklist. Until the article appeared on Hacker News, this was not 0% on Google. A small, correctable mistake, but they deserved a tiny bit of blame.

> But Google was at fault for not correcting their blacklist.

If all it takes to be taken from the blacklist was to temporarily delete the NS record - the list would be useless against malware.

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by fckgw »

bjt wrote: post #251

It's not about the .online TLD being "weird". The problem is that it was free. That's going to attract a swarm of fraudsters, spammers, etc, and then turn into a strong "this is probably fraud" signal in all kinds of fraud scoring systems. There are lots of domains out there other than .com that are just fine.

.online, .top, .xyz. info and .shop are some of the top TLDs that scammers use, precisely because of their rock bottom registrar fees that make them attractive for sites that have a shelf life of a few hours or a few days before being blocked. As a result, many places have a blanket "suspicious" flag for fresh domains under these TLDs.

If you plan on building a legit site, do not use any of these cheap TLDs.

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by tracker1 »

nativeit wrote: post #158
Romario77 wrote: post #105

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I logged in several times to other people's accounts and reset their passwords. But it's too tiring, people keep adding my email. I hope it's because I have small simple email and not because they want to steal it.

You’re confessing to several actual felonies here, may want to change strategies.

You give someone ownership of something and they used that ownership...

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by otterley »

ryandrake wrote: post #188
saghm wrote: post #145

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Also not a lawyer, but that makes intuitive sense. If I say "that food tastes bad", it's phrased as a fact, but a "reasonable person" (which is in fact a legal test used for some things, although I admit I'm not sure about libel) knows that there's an implicit "...to me" qualifier because the concept of taste itself is inherently subjective. My instinct is that while there are some things everyone would agree on as u…

"Unsafe" is just a terribly vague word, too. As a layman, I wouldn't even know what that means with respect to a web site. What's "unsafe" about it? Is it going to shoot my dog? Is it going to drain my bank account? Is it going to give my computer a virus? Saying a web site is "unsafe" really isn't providing any interesting information, and it shouldn't be acted upon by pretty much anyone.

I agree that it’s not specific, but I disagree that it should be blindly ignored. It’s not like they have no reason whatsoever for their opinion.

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by [deleted] »

habinero wrote: post #265
tshaddox wrote: post #195

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That sounds like a spurious distinction. Pretty sure you can’t say “Person X is a murderer” and then say “well I’m only expressing my opinion, and in my opinion if you do something that annoys me that qualifies as murder.”

Nope, not in the US. It is perfectly legal to say, for example, "Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer" despite him being acquitted. You're entirely free to disagree with the result, that is an opinion. Any opinion based on public knowledge is ok. It doesn't even have to be reasonable or rational. What you can't do is imply non-public knowledge, aka "I heard from my cousin who works in law enforcement that Kyle murdered a h…

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Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by bhartzer »

Are you 100 percent certain that the domain name wasn't registered before and then got on the blacklist because of prior misuse?

It's quite possible that the domain you chose was registered previously and dropped because the previous owner misused it and burned that domain. The .ONLINE extension has been around for several years now.

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by otterley »

horsawlarway wrote: post #247
otterley wrote: post #98

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(IAAL but this is not legal advice.) It’s not libel. Defamation requires a false statement of fact . Marking a website as “unsafe” is an opinion .

As someone who has also been bit by this, and with the only possible resolution being that I sign up for google services and register my site with them in the google search dashboard... Fuck Google. This is absolutely libel. They put a big fucking red banner on top of my site, telling the world that it's unsafe, using all the authority they have as one of the largest tech companies in the world. In my case - it was a…

There’s nothing wrong with your dislike of Google. No matter how much you dislike them, though, the word “libel” has a meaning that should be respected. To opine that a site is unsafe is simply not libelous.

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by tracker1 »

delecti wrote: post #159
Romario77 wrote: post #105

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I logged in several times to other people's accounts and reset their passwords. But it's too tiring, people keep adding my email. I hope it's because I have small simple email and not because they want to steal it.

Have you tried sending them emails asking/telling them to stop?

There are times where you just can't... someone uses my email address in person at tractor supply co. and I'm getting a ton of marketing email I can't usnsub to.

I've had this happen several times... There's a lawyer I used for a dispute a few years ago, and they now have another "First Last" name that matches mine, and he keeps emailing me... my reply, "Wrong Michael, again..."

It's kind of annoying all around... I need to get off my butt and get a few things shifted, then just start relying on my own MTA again, instead of forwarding *@mydomain to my gmail to. I'll still wildcard the domain, but to a single mailbox on my own mta.

I'm not sure how bad the spam might get though... I've had a test account on my mta for a couple years and it hasn't really recived any... my wildcard accounts either... I use the wildcard so I can do things like walmart@mydomain, to see if/where an email address is sold/leaked from regarding spam.

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by tecleandor »

rationalist wrote: post #81
NikolaNovak wrote: post #22

Oh man. The infinite loops of impossible verification by large companies that should know better are massive pain peeve of mine. This goes right to the top for me, along the ubiquitous "please verify your account" emails with NO OPTION to click "that's NOT me, somebody misused my email". Either people who do this for a living have no clue how to do their job, or, depressingly more likely, their goals are just complet…

Someone constantly adds my Gmail address as their Gmail account's backup address. I constantly remove it whenever Gmail sends me the notification. I can't help but think there is some method for the other person to steal my Gmail account if I never remove my email as their backup.

My Gmail account is a funny word in Spanish that I got when there was still plenty of names available.

I get TONS of emails of people trying to join services that use my address as a "fake email".

Re: Never buy a .online domain

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Post by charlieyu1 »

volkercraig wrote: post #266
ntoskrnl_exe wrote: post #248

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I'm curious if this would really be considered unlawful access, since only pure idiocy and no hacking/scamming/etc were involved.

It would be in Canada, but our "misuse of computer" charge is overly broad and never been well tested.

On the other hand, in Hong Kong it would be straight to jail. Someone was sent a link by the airlines, he changed a couple of characters and it ended up showing another person’s data. The guy voluntarily reported the vulnerability and all he got was a criminal charge and found guilty
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