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What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

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Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

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>key leaders of the AI labs struggle openly with the morality of what they are building they definitely are not.

They do.

I suspect that you are not only ignoring the existing safeguards that have already come of those discussions, but I suspect you’re also ignoring or pretending like those public discussions never happened in the first place.

Furthermore, I suspect you’re also trivializing what is and is not in contention with moral issues as these companies are trying to compete against each other.

I also think you’re probably assuming the slower options are the safer options because you haven’t really considered the risks of ceding power/investment to a less scrupulous competitor.

I’m not claiming any of these men are moral upstanding people or that they’ve done enough.

I think people should be very critical, but they should at least make the effort to ENGAGE in the moral issues and consequences.

Your cheap four word response only adds cheap rhetoric to the conversation.

If you really care about the moral issues, start typing.

Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

#73

Drop out of tech, grab a cup of coffee, and enjoy the view of seeing the top 1% drive everything you loved about software development and creativity fall off a cliff. Then, maybe when I'm on the verge of death due to old age, the entire society will adapt around using their creative juices in proompting the next big LLM model version, while schools teach about the years where people talented were allowed to study and…

Person asks for help with a doomscrolling problem and the top comment is more doomerism?

I’m going to add “stop reading Hacker News comments” as advice for addressing this problem.

Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

#74
We'll see. I'm leaning on "it's all a big joke" until I see at least one impressive result from these supercharged 1000x builders. Be that a useful, novel piece of software that enables me to do something I couldn't before, an interesting book, a good song, anything.

Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

#75

There’s a term for this behavior: Doomscrolling People who doomscroll rarely recognize it as doomscrolling because they only think of the term as something that happens to other people. They see their own consumption as accurate and important. They don’t see their sources as doomerism, they think they have identified the real truth that others don’t see yet. They have a short memory for the gross inaccuracies of thei…

I don't think job search is doomscrolling, because all job openings I see ask for mandatory LLM familiarity. This is where the use of a tool goes beyond "just a tool" and becomes just as important as your own knowledge. In fact, if someone were to tell me that a mediocre candidate was chosen over a widely appraised candidate (open source contributions and all) because the former was more familiar with prompting while…

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Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

#77

Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life? And why do you w…

Faith is a fascinating approach here, though it has some flaws. It works on an emotional level if you believe that there is a god that takes care of you as this quote suggests, but if you look for material evidence that there is such a god, there is none to be found. In the medical sciences this usually goes under the name “placebo effect”.

C'est la vie, then.

Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Ah yes. Whattaboutism. Awesome. Tell me again the political leanings of the billionaire class? Tell me again who is fighting them? Facts speak for themselves but go ahead and make shit up to defend the right wing.

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Re: What are the best coping mechanisms for AI Fatalism?

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There’s a term for this behavior: Doomscrolling People who doomscroll rarely recognize it as doomscrolling because they only think of the term as something that happens to other people. They see their own consumption as accurate and important. They don’t see their sources as doomerism, they think they have identified the real truth that others don’t see yet. They have a short memory for the gross inaccuracies of thei…

I don't think job search is doomscrolling, because all job openings I see ask for mandatory LLM familiarity. This is where the use of a tool goes beyond "just a tool" and becomes just as important as your own knowledge. In fact, if someone were to tell me that a mediocre candidate was chosen over a widely appraised candidate (open source contributions and all) because the former was more familiar with prompting while…

Job listings are not full of doom and dread. If you look at a job listing and all you can think about is doom and anxiety, that’s the doomscrolling in other domains coloring your perception of life.

It’s amazing how quickly we forget how this works. Only a few years ago you could doomscroll your way into believing COVID was the end of the world and life would never be the same again.

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