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Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Re: Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Post by olav »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #6
okintheory wrote: post #3

How could any European govt use MS after Trump ordered MS to sanction an ICC prosecutor and MS complied? I imagine they're all trying to walk away

Easy. Intertia and incompetence. Government is full of paper pushers who hav eno higher wish but to live comfortably on tax payers money until they retire. The key to survival is to do what everyone else is doing, and not to be the first to try anything new. The good thing is, as soon as someone tries anything new, and it looks like it is a success, the paper pushers will join in as soon as they think it is safe, and…

Plus, fulfillment of wishes to users as opposed to IT architecture management. Users have been brainwashed to demand certain brands. When you combine this with an IT Management that lacks mid-term risk management or a vision, you get happy users and an IT landscape easily taken hostage by single vendors.

Re: Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Post by 999900000999 »

The entire American software industry will feel the ramifications here.

Gotta stay polite for HN. No data stored on an American server is secure.

I really really do like Open Suse though, and I think an open source future is possible. Open Suse, Libre Office, etc.

Re: Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Post by Mashimo »

I work in software development for Danish hospitals, and some regions already used OpenOffice, now libre office, for .. well over 15 years. At least in parts.

We integrate with an API into libreoffice, and it more or less did not change in well over a decade. But sometimes libreoffice crashes and you can't figure out why. There are just no logs. It feels like a black box at times.

But I don't think they will be switching away from Teams as quickly. Will be interesting for sure.

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know why libreoffice stopped publishing artefacts to mvn repo? https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.libreoffice/libreoffi...

Re: Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Post by CoastalCoder »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #6
okintheory wrote: post #3

How could any European govt use MS after Trump ordered MS to sanction an ICC prosecutor and MS complied? I imagine they're all trying to walk away

Easy. Intertia and incompetence. Government is full of paper pushers who hav eno higher wish but to live comfortably on tax payers money until they retire. The key to survival is to do what everyone else is doing, and not to be the first to try anything new. The good thing is, as soon as someone tries anything new, and it looks like it is a success, the paper pushers will join in as soon as they think it is safe, and…

> This is just how the government and the public sector works.

I work in the public sector, and that isn't remotely my experience.

Could you roughly quantify what faction of public sector workers you believe operate that way, and how you arrived at that belief?

Re: Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Post by seu »

okintheory wrote: post #3

How could any European govt use MS after Trump ordered MS to sanction an ICC prosecutor and MS complied? I imagine they're all trying to walk away

Not exactly governments, but I work with NGOs in Germany, and plenty of them use Teams and other MS products, just because they receive them for free and don't have the budget to pay someone to install open source alternatives. Training is especially costly and in these environments people are not really "digital native". It's not even about age, but about culture: people here will do what they are trained to do and fear doing something they don't know, because they might "do something wrong". I was responsible for a platform that gives free online storage, chat functions and videocalls (BBB) for NGOs, and had to hear these arguments over and over when discussing migrations. So unless there is a political drive, together with good trainings and support, the transition is very very difficult.

Re: Danish government agency to ditch Microsoft software (2025)

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Post by data_maan »

999900000999 wrote: post #13

The entire American software industry will feel the ramifications here. Gotta stay polite for HN. No data stored on an American server is secure. I really really do like Open Suse though, and I think an open source future is possible. Open Suse, Libre Office, etc.

I love these posts that are so on the edge that I can't tell if it's sarcastic or for real :)
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