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The Righteous EV Owners Who Won't Let Their Broken Cars Die

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Post by rangestransform »

SR2Z wrote: post #9
jmclnx wrote: post #3

This the thing I do not understand about modern EVs. Based upon articles I read, maintenance of EVs are far more expensive that fossil fuel vehicles. Maintenance is a big part of cost of ownership . 100+ years ago, Electric Vehicles back the were correctly touted as having far less maintenance that fossil fuel vehicles. Here is the thing, Items EVs do not have/need: 1. No Transmission 2. Oil Changes 3. No radiator 4.…

The elephant in the room when talking about EV repair costs is Tesla's gigapress that they use for the Model 3/Y. It's excellent and cheap (at least it is now after thousands of customers have been used as guinea pigs and sold cars with wildly defective underpinnings) but it does mean that virtually any damage to the casting will total the car since it's not practical to replace or repair it. Given that the majority…

Damaging structural parts on any modern car is likely to total it, just because of the labour costs involved.

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

jmclnx wrote: post #3

This the thing I do not understand about modern EVs. Based upon articles I read, maintenance of EVs are far more expensive that fossil fuel vehicles. Maintenance is a big part of cost of ownership . 100+ years ago, Electric Vehicles back the were correctly touted as having far less maintenance that fossil fuel vehicles. Here is the thing, Items EVs do not have/need: 1. No Transmission 2. Oil Changes 3. No radiator 4.…

All of this is basically still there in another form.

1. If you count drive gearing, it has a transmission. Teeth will experience wear if not properly maintained.

2. Almost all modern EVs now are oil cooled. There are a few exceptions. See above.

3. All have a radiator for cooling. See above.

4. The 'exhaust system' is 100% gone. Heat the only waste product.

5. There is plenty of rubber and plastic hoses and gaskets in EVs that will break during the lifetime of the vehicle, just like they do in ICE.

I totally agree that the service is much less of a burden to the owner. About an order of magnitude less 'work' for them.

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Post by rasz »

jmclnx wrote: post #3

This the thing I do not understand about modern EVs. Based upon articles I read, maintenance of EVs are far more expensive that fossil fuel vehicles. Maintenance is a big part of cost of ownership . 100+ years ago, Electric Vehicles back the were correctly touted as having far less maintenance that fossil fuel vehicles. Here is the thing, Items EVs do not have/need: 1. No Transmission 2. Oil Changes 3. No radiator 4.…

Maintenance is almost free. You can lease Tesla for 3 years and only change tires. Suspension will clap out but older 3s were so harsh to begin with you wouldnt really notice driving with torn/disintegrated bushings.

Its damage repair where the problems start. Labor is expensive in US, skilled labor (electricians, welding aluminum, panel beating) double so.

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Post by beAbU »

jmclnx wrote: post #3

This the thing I do not understand about modern EVs. Based upon articles I read, maintenance of EVs are far more expensive that fossil fuel vehicles. Maintenance is a big part of cost of ownership . 100+ years ago, Electric Vehicles back the were correctly touted as having far less maintenance that fossil fuel vehicles. Here is the thing, Items EVs do not have/need: 1. No Transmission 2. Oil Changes 3. No radiator 4.…

During my Hyundai Kona's service last year the tech kicked the tyres, shone a flashlight underneath and checked all the fluid levels. Then they washed it and told me to come back next year.

I paid like €120 for it.

Not sure where your "ev services are expensive" rhetoric comes from.

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Post by beAbU »

jmclnx wrote: post #3

This the thing I do not understand about modern EVs. Based upon articles I read, maintenance of EVs are far more expensive that fossil fuel vehicles. Maintenance is a big part of cost of ownership . 100+ years ago, Electric Vehicles back the were correctly touted as having far less maintenance that fossil fuel vehicles. Here is the thing, Items EVs do not have/need: 1. No Transmission 2. Oil Changes 3. No radiator 4.…

> No radiator

Almost all EVs come with a radiator and cooling loop these days.

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