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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Full report: https://content.forensic-architecture.org/wp-content/uploads...

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Nausea inducing attempt at whitewashing.

Soldiers vs aid workers, and you're defending the murderers, and propagating a particular stereotype, thus further hindering your cause.

Can't tell if this is due to a lack of self insight, institutionalised delusion or cold hearted intentional weaponisation in a self declared war.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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What is the HN community doing to use tech to combat terrorism and defend civilian security and freedom?

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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> That the anti-Israelis are going to latch on it as proof that Israel is evil is an unfortunate side effect. Defenders of Israel always try to put a label on us: anti-Semites, anti-Iaraelis etc. You are trying to make it seem like this was some kind of isolated incident, an unfortunate consequence of the war. It wasn't: Gaza is in ruins, Israel continues ethnic cleansing in West Bank all while gaslighting everyone w…

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Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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> Upon reaching the aid workers, the soldiers moved between them and the vehicles and executed some of the aid workers at point blank range, as close as one meter away." -> we know not all the aid workers were killed. I believe two were taken alive. This is the part that gives me the most pause. The FA report makes it sound like they went on a murder spree for the hell of it and then tried to cover up the evidence (i…

You leave witnesses because a) you know nobody will prosecute the IDF, and b) it allows people like you to question whether the clear mass murder was a mass murder.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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> That the anti-Israelis are going to latch on it as proof that Israel is evil is an unfortunate side effect. Defenders of Israel always try to put a label on us: anti-Semites, anti-Iaraelis etc. You are trying to make it seem like this was some kind of isolated incident, an unfortunate consequence of the war. It wasn't: Gaza is in ruins, Israel continues ethnic cleansing in West Bank all while gaslighting everyone w…

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> So this label is not accurate? You are not anti-Israel but rather pro-Israel?

This is a form of splitting or black-and-white thinking and it's not rational. If doesn't make you anti-Semitic to refuse to defend Israel with every breath as they commit a genocide against a people under their steward.

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I wouldn’t point to Epstein, but there is a very powerful lobby that will protect the image of any Israeli government. A lot of Evangelicals also consider Israel important in bringing about the apocalypse, without which they can’t access eternal life. I wish I was kidding on that last one, but there are people actively trying to bring down civilisation so they can go to heaven.

Need source for the last one?

Sadly I don’t.

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That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not the IDF's fault. And if it was, they didn't mean it. And if they did, Gaza deserved it.

and if you don't agree, you're antisemitic

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That article says 30 deaths of "people" not civilians and that the strikes targeted commanders.

if the ceasefire only applies when targeting civilians, was agreeing to a ceasefire in the first place thus an admission of targeting civilians?

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Imagine being one of those soldiers. How could you live with yourself? How could you look anyone in the eye, your comrades, your family?

According to reports from locals in Asia and Europe, they are traveling and enjoying life to the fullest while harassing local communities during those trips.

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When the first attack on an aid convoy to provoke outrage came out, I saw someone put it best: there is a difference between "war is chaos, and no matter how hard we try, some incidents regrettably occur" and "our rules of engagement are designed in such a manner to make these incidents almost certain." And the IDF... is pretty clearly in the latter category. > I imagine most of the armchair critics here have never b…

The only clarity here is in the eyes of those who made their decision in advance and are cherry picking. Yes- There have been quite a few incidents but the percentage is still small. There were also many friendly fire incidents. All of these happen in every war. The difference is this war is being put under a microscope and there are powerful actors trying to push a narrative. It is the nature of how Hamas wages war…

> It is the nature of how Hamas wages war in Gaza that is driving the assumptions here

When the bad guys use human shields, it’s on the “good guys” to somehow resist the “good guy” urge to blow the whole city up.

Hamas has killed something in the order of 800 idf soldiers during this conflict, if we exclude the ones killed on oct 7th. In that same time at least 75,000 palestinians have been killed - most of which were women and children. So, unless you’re saying this is a justified collective punishment for oct 7th, what on earth are you possibly referring to? Hamas isn’t “waging war” in any real sense.

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