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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ceejayoz »

jeromegv wrote: post #362
stackedinserter wrote: post #248

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I don’t think we can truly compare the missile attacks of Hamas vs the bombing campaigns of Israel Look at any photo of any neighborhood in Israel, is there anywhere that remotely looks similar to the pile of rocks that Gaza looks like now? Universities, hospitals, so much infrastructure, all gone. So much of Gaza is now people living in tents. Israel destroyed so much civilian infrastructure that existed. How’s that…

Look, I don't disagree, but American cities looked pretty fine after WWII, and Germany was rubble. Which side gets pounded more doesn't inherently prove which side was right.

(In this case, I'm of the opinion that both sides committed clear, deliberate war crimes.)

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Post by nailer »

ceejayoz wrote: post #354
LorenPechtel wrote: post #351

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> All the hospitals are rubble? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d... "By February 2024, it was reported that "every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel."" > And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes. A lie. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-hospitals-during... "Even then, hum…

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

troupo wrote: post #273
ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

Two things are valid at once: - Hamas is a terrorist organization that planned and executed a mass terror campaign, fully knowing and hoping for the reaction. And boasting about it continuously and repeatedly. - Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks.

Hamas is a terror organisation funded, and quite possibly created, by far-right nationalist elements in the Israeli government to weaken the Palestinian authority and create a pretext for the occupation of Gaza.

Netanyahu is on the record funnelling money through Qatar. He said it was for "humanitarian aid" - which would be more credible if it wasn't such an extraordinary and unusual outbreak of concern for Palestinian wellbeing.

The occupation is straight out genocide, labelled as such by many Israeli scholars, as well as most of Rest of World.

This level of barbarism and entitlement has no place on a civilised planet.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by ceejayoz »

nailer wrote: post #380
ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

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> There was a seperate hospital that the IDF did bomb…

There was more than "a" hospital. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d...

"By February 2024, it was reported that "every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel.""

Are the satellites lying, too? https://www.nbcnews.com/world/gaza/satellite-images-destruct...

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Post by grumple »

ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

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Post by ceejayoz »

nailer wrote: post #382
ceejayoz wrote: post #354

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> All the hospitals are rubble? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d... "By February 2024, it was reported that "every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel."" > And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes. A lie. https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-hospitals-during... "Even then, hum…

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Which fact would you like to dispute?

That the Geneva Conventions cover more than civilians is... not tough to back up. https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/gciii-1949

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Post by slg »

abdelhousni wrote: post #336
troupo wrote: post #273

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Two things are valid at once: - Hamas is a terrorist organization that planned and executed a mass terror campaign, fully knowing and hoping for the reaction. And boasting about it continuously and repeatedly. - Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks.

You forgot eighty years of occupation, cultural , economical and ethnical cleansing of the local indigenous people called Palestinians with help of US and Western countries mainly.

>the local indigenous people called Palestinians

While you have a valid point overall, I always hate this specific phrasing because it's either ignorant of history or implies there is a statute of limitations on being indigenous. And if it is the latter, you're actively being counterproductive to the cause because that is telling the Israelis that the land will be morally theirs if they can hold it for enough generations thereby encouraging continued occupation.

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Post by joyeuse6701 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

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Post by nailer »

ceejayoz wrote: post #346
stackedinserter wrote: post #248

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> That didn't happen. Hamas brags even about their failed attacks. Your comparison fails at the first step. > And if it was, we didn't mean it. And this one! How often does Hamas pull the "we didn't mean it!" card for their attacks on Israel? Have they ever ? Of course they mean it, they're a bunch of assholes.

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Post by halflife »

heyitsmedotjayb wrote: post #194
herdst wrote: post #175

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If they're not seeking to take it, then why are Zionist settlers currently crossing into Syria and taking it?

Because they are crazy people? Not representing anyone in Israel?
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