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IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by woodruffw »

kombine wrote: post #230
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If this was happening against the west, people would care a lot more It’s literally happening in Ukraine and, to a lesser scale but precisely the same in type, Minneapolis. On the other hand, there are conflicts across Africa and Asia which are not receiving half the attention.

> On the other hand, there are conflicts across Africa and Asia which are not receiving half the attention. Because the West doesn't fund and shield the perpetrators unlike Israel.

> Because the West doesn't fund and shield the perpetrators unlike Israel.

You could make an at least passable argument that the US offers a favorable media environment to our MENA allies (i.e., those other than Israel) during what is by all accounts an extremely brutal and mostly ignored conflict in Sudan.

Re: IDF killed Gaza aid workers at point blank range in 2025 massacre: Report

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Post by troupo »

guerrilla wrote: post #284
troupo wrote: post #273

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Two things are valid at once: - Hamas is a terrorist organization that planned and executed a mass terror campaign, fully knowing and hoping for the reaction. And boasting about it continuously and repeatedly. - Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks.

You didn't actually address the actual point. Israel and it's defenders have been lying about the death toll this entire time and Hamas was not. > - Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks. This is also an extreme understatement. It's literally a genocide.

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Post by guerrilla »

iberator wrote: post #264

My stance is Mossad reading: - Likud is an evil political party - Natanyahu is a wanted war criminal - IDF committed many atrocities - Hamas was insane to think that Bibi would NOT BOMB the Gaza in retaliation. - Hamas was the first to cast the stone. - Israel ALWAYS gonna retaliate with non proportional force when it comes to security of its citizens.

> Hamas was insane to think that Bibi would NOT BOMB the Gaza in retaliation.

My theory is that they knew this would happen and they did it because they knew it would garner support (which it did) and they also knew they had nothing to lose because this is what would have happened in the long-term anyway. They chose between a quick death and a slow death. Unfortunately, everyone else who originally chose them to protect them didn't get to choose. I doubt most would have voted for this if they had that choice.

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Post by bdhe »

troupo wrote: post #273
ceejayoz wrote: post #127

I remember when folks here were shilling the "Israel promises they'd never bomb a hospital" and "Hamas is lying about the death toll" lines. All the hospitals are now rubble, and the IDF quietly let it slip that the death toll is legit recently. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2026-01-29/ty-article/.p... There's damning video of this specific incident, recovered from the dead. I suspect subsequent massacres made…

Two things are valid at once: - Hamas is a terrorist organization that planned and executed a mass terror campaign, fully knowing and hoping for the reaction. And boasting about it continuously and repeatedly. - Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks.

> and it quickly grew beyond any reason

Why did it quickly grow?

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Post by Vasbarlog »

khazhoux wrote: post #275
Vasbarlog wrote: post #197

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> problem is that both sides lie flagrantly And yet one side is committing genocide.

And the other side just. won’t. stop. attacking. That’s really the problem, innit? Palestine can’t stop poking, Israel overreact. 20 GOTO 10.

You could say that about Israel too you know. The other side just. Won’t. Stop. Attacking. Israelis can’t stop sniping children.

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Post by bdhe »

criddell wrote: post #289
neaden wrote: post #261

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People in places like this generally don't feel the need to condemn Hamas because it's understood that they are bad. Hamas is not an ally of the United States, it's troops and police force don't train with the United States military, it does not buy weapons from United States factories, and it does not receive government aid from the United States. If you feel the need to, you can add a condemnation of Hamas to basic…

There are a bunch of people here who are university students and Hamas support isn't as low as you might think on western campuses.

Hamas support or Palestinian support?

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Post by guerrilla »

troupo wrote: post #292
guerrilla wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't actually address the actual point. Israel and it's defenders have been lying about the death toll this entire time and Hamas was not. > - Israel's response was hasty, unplanned, purely driven by emotion at the beginning, and it quickly grew beyond any reason in the next weeks. This is also an extreme understatement. It's literally a genocide.

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The evidence that their numbers were accurate was just presented to you in this very thread.

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Post by incahoots »

woodruffw wrote: post #255
ebbi wrote: post #182

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The problem is majority of Israeli citizens think the government isn't doing enough. Cue the citizens that protested to stop the aid trucks from going into Gaza. The citizens that protested because the Israeli military arrested (after a lot of international pressure) soldiers that were caught raping Palestinian prisoners. They were protesting for the right of soldiers to continue to rape.

> The citizens that protested because the Israeli military arrested (after a lot of international pressure) soldiers that were caught raping Palestinian prisoners. The people you're talking about are Israel's far-right. I don't think you can index from them onto the median Israeli's political views anymore than you could reasonably index from a member of Hamas's armed wing onto the median Palestinian. (A recurring th…

Might behoove you to know how schooling in that "country" is handled..especially when it comes to Palestinians. Below is an excellent insight as to how this is a "country" wide homegrown effort to raise unhinged cilivians that celebrate the murder of children & women.

https://electronicintifada.net/content/book-review-how-israe...

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