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Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

codeulike wrote: post #155
Alcedes wrote: post #95

I guess google is going after budget conscious. No LTE is ridiculous and their excuse that they don't want carrier interference is lame. Does Apple have to deal with carriers interfering with deploying LTE? Please, the real reason why they don't support LTE is the Nexus is not a big seller. So it makes little sense to create multiple sku's. Gotta love that Google spin.

I'm guessing its more like battery and target-cost limitations edit: and the carrier thing as discussed in The Verge

Anyone who's been paying any attention knows this is no conspiracy, Google is not happy with Verizon AT ALL. Wallet/ISIS is only a small component of that.

Painting this is something else is just inaccurate.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by rplnt »

fr0sty wrote: post #14

And someone finally implements the killer-feature for the "Family Tablet": Multi-Account Support: > But what makes Nexus 10 unique is that it's the first truly shareable tablet. With Android 4.2, you can add multiple users and switch between them instantly right from the lockscreen. We believe that everyone should have quick and easy access to their own stuff -- email, apps, bookmarks, and more. That way, everyone ca…

Both Gnome and KDE became touch-ready over the years. They of course have this feature. I just wonder, does any manufacturer sell their tablets with these?

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by bryanlarsen »

w1ntermute wrote: post #221
meritt wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it we have amazing 16:10 2560-by-1600 in a 10" tablet but commonplace laptops (13-15") rarely surpass 1680x1050 or even worse 1366x768? Sometimes, on high-end models, you can pay an extra $200 to "upgrade" to 1920x1080 (I'll leave my rant about 16:10 vs. 16:9 for another time). Technology is so ridiculous at times.

> Why is it we have amazing 16:10 2560-by-1600 in a 10" tablet but commonplace laptops (13-15") rarely surpass 1680x1050 or even worse 1366x768? Because Windows and Windows apps don't support resolution-independent UI scaling. > Sometimes, on high-end models, you can pay an extra $200 to "upgrade" to 1920x1080 Because they know they can rip you off, and because it's a lot more expensive to produce high resolution dis…

Larger screens are much more expensive to produce than small screens unless the defect rate is very low. For this reason new LCD technologies are always perfected on smaller screens before migrating to larger screens.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by actf »

levesque wrote: post #140
monkeyfacebag wrote: post #19

Hopefully this starts the ball rolling on Android tablet apps. I really love my Nexus 7, but the app selection is definitely inferior to what's available for iOS.

What kind of app do you find yourself wishing for? The apps I use the most are the default apps, i.e. Calendar, Mail, Chrome, Reader (google version) and Google+/Facebook/Twitter.

Apple is still miles ahead when it comes to real time audio processing apps. The obvious example here being garage band, but on the less obscure side there are a ton of guitar amp/effects apps on iOS (which are awesome if you play guitar) for which there is absolutely nothing even remotely equivalent on android.

My understanding is that the android api has improved recently with respect to the ability to support these types of apps, but for whatever reason there's still a noticeable lack of these apps.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by pkulak »

fr0sty wrote: post #245
lnanek2 wrote: post #220

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Every single thing you do that involves network access of any amount does it faster. Do you enjoy waiting for pages to load and apps to pull in data? LTE isn't about more data per se, it's about faster data. It's entirely possible to use it without downloading any more data and still benefit from it.

You are confusing latency with throughput. If you are downloading 1MB of data the difference in delivery between the two speeds (42mbps vs. 72mbps) is 80ms (190ms vs 111ms) Hardly life-changing.

Latency is actually quite a bit better with LTE. That said, I moved from T-Mobile HSPA+ to Verizon LTE and it wasn't earth shattering. Both pretty much feel like WiFi and I agree with Google that it's not worth compromising several other aspects of a phone just to get LTE.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by actf »

actf wrote: post #264
levesque wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of app do you find yourself wishing for? The apps I use the most are the default apps, i.e. Calendar, Mail, Chrome, Reader (google version) and Google+/Facebook/Twitter.

Apple is still miles ahead when it comes to real time audio processing apps. The obvious example here being garage band, but on the less obscure side there are a ton of guitar amp/effects apps on iOS (which are awesome if you play guitar) for which there is absolutely nothing even remotely equivalent on android. My understanding is that the android api has improved recently with respect to the ability to support thes…

I'd also add that outside of the US there's still a huge lack of content (i.e. movies, music), compared to what's available on iTunes. I'm not sure what the difference is like inside the US

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Post by jonknee »

Retric wrote: post #204
mattmanser wrote: post #177

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I thought Apple's app store makes a fraction of what they make on the phones? Although Google's profit's are in the billions, so are their users. Their profit per user is actually pretty small to be running an at a loss hardware device. And we can't pretend that people don't use their ecosystem on other devices anyway. I honestly have no clue at what Google are trying to achieve sometimes. I mean it makes sense for A…

Last I checked it was the other way around, iTunes and the App store are basically run at cost to get people to buy more devices.

No, but the profit made is tiny in comparison to the giant margins they make on iOS devices ($700 iPhones that cost $175 to make really pad the bottom line).

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by Scottopherson »

pooriaazimi wrote: post #60

Full details are available here: https://play.google.com/store/devices?feature=microsite ---- 4": https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16g... 7": https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_16g... 10": https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_10_16...

Looking at the close-up images, will having the front-facing speakers located where you hold the device be an issue?

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by objclxt »

distantparts wrote: post #223
wmf wrote: post #25

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Yeah, these prices look almost too good to be true. Other Android vendors may be getting some serious indigestion from this.

You can't imagine that Samsung will be thrilled about the Nexus 4. The Galaxy S3 suddenly looks poor value, and that's their flagship device. It was selling in big numbers, and although it's cheaper than the iPhone 5, presumably it's still a very profitable device. If Google are determined to sell high quality devices at cost to gain market share, and can make the general public aware of this (non-trivial), Apple may…

You have to wonder whether Motorola are best pleased about it either - it's hardly a ringing endorsement that Google have farmed the Nexus 4 out to LG rather than use the device manufacturer that they own.

Re: Nexus: The best of Google, now in three sizes

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Post by sigzero »

codeulike wrote: post #178
Derbasti wrote: post #170

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I sincerely hope that with regards to tablets, the next major battleground will be the desktop. I want a tablet that acts as a tablet on the go, but plugs into my mouse/keyboard/monitor at home and just replaces my desktop. Performance is not quite there yet, but it's getting close. OSes are not quite there yet, but progress is being made there, too. I think it is only a matter of time and it might get there faster t…

> faster than we think Surface Pro, hopefully.

Surface Pro will not compete in the same space. Pricing alone will push it out of that space.
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