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‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
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Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#72It is linguistically possible that "viking" was simply a self-referential ethnonym, with the first part meaning "home" or "village". https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-Eur... Compare Ancient Greek [w]oikos, and all the various ves, vas, wieś, which can be found all over Eastern Europe.
The first part of the word viking, or vik simply means "bay" in nordic languages
Yes, but similarity alone is not a guarantee that words are related. The words val and [h]val are not related in Swedish, even though they ended up with the same pronunciation and spelling in the modern language. Sometimes, words can end up as "fossil words" because the main usage of the word was lost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_word
This can also happen to word roots. Because this is about a historical word, it's interesting to look at the broader Indo-European language tree for clues about the original meaning.
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
pretty common on twitter, esp these days where there is strong anglo-saxon white nationalism crowd they do romanticize their ancient past as one of conquest and domination over others. btw, even without the viking aspect, norse law was pretty strange in that it allowed murder for a fine. there is definitely a savage aspect to white tradition as there is to any modern culture, but there is a lot of whitewashing thats…
> pretty common on twitter All sorts of strange things are common on twitter that are completely absent in real life. It shouldn't be used for any measure of reality, especially if you're judging the people of a continent.
White ethno-nationalism is not exactly irrelevant to current U.S. news & politics.
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> rather than Scandinavian Strange, being in North America, I've yet to meet anyone identify themself as having viking blood, but we refer to Scandinavians as being of viking ancestry all the time.
pretty common on twitter, esp these days where there is strong anglo-saxon white nationalism crowd they do romanticize their ancient past as one of conquest and domination over others. btw, even without the viking aspect, norse law was pretty strange in that it allowed murder for a fine. there is definitely a savage aspect to white tradition as there is to any modern culture, but there is a lot of whitewashing thats…
...so a common meme for bots
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> pretty common on twitter All sorts of strange things are common on twitter that are completely absent in real life. It shouldn't be used for any measure of reality, especially if you're judging the people of a continent.
White ethno-nationalism is not exactly irrelevant to current U.S. news & politics.
and that is thanks to amplifying fringe and/or fake junk from twitter!
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#76I am not sure why they used this title for this study as that is not the important part. We already have known Viking was a job description, thats been known for hundreds of years. We also knew that viking settlement was widespread. This study used DNA sequencing to settle the debate on if vikings from certain areas went to certain areas, and if they mixed. It seems to confirm the theory that the norse did NOT mix, a…
The used that title because more people will see and remember it.
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#77I am not sure why they used this title for this study as that is not the important part. We already have known Viking was a job description, thats been known for hundreds of years. We also knew that viking settlement was widespread. This study used DNA sequencing to settle the debate on if vikings from certain areas went to certain areas, and if they mixed. It seems to confirm the theory that the norse did NOT mix, a…
The title is indeed odd. The new (to me, at least) idea here is that the different regions of Scandinavia didn't mix as much, "on the job" or genetically, as I thought they would have. They each carved out their own territories and mixed with the local population, but not with each other to a significant degree. It's surprising to find that more genetic material was making it's way back to parts of Scandinavia from t…
maybe you hate your neighbors more than you hate the exotic foreign visitor?
hmm, of course current news would rather undermine that theory, but maybe today's exotic foreign countries are about as close as neighboring countries were back in Viking times.
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#78I am not sure why they used this title for this study as that is not the important part. We already have known Viking was a job description, thats been known for hundreds of years. We also knew that viking settlement was widespread. This study used DNA sequencing to settle the debate on if vikings from certain areas went to certain areas, and if they mixed. It seems to confirm the theory that the norse did NOT mix, a…
You say "we" knew but the vast majority of people don't. It's not exactly common knowledge among people I know so it's unsurprising a title for general audiences uses it as a hook.
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
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Those monks were part of a system intending to push out the native beliefs of the inhabitants of the land as a soft form of conquering.
Re: ‘Viking’ was a job, not a matter of heredity: ancient DNA study (2020)
#80I am not sure why they used this title for this study as that is not the important part. We already have known Viking was a job description, thats been known for hundreds of years. We also knew that viking settlement was widespread. This study used DNA sequencing to settle the debate on if vikings from certain areas went to certain areas, and if they mixed. It seems to confirm the theory that the norse did NOT mix, a…
I work in the US with white dudes who literally think their heritage is "Viking" and make it a big part of their identity - I appreciate your point but I also understand why someone might pick that title.