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A simple web we own

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Re: A simple web we own

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Post by ux266478 »

post-it wrote: post #45
swiftcoder wrote: post #43

The irony of this being fully hosted on GitHub should not be lost. A toaster is sufficient to host a mostly static site, a VPS would be far more than sufficient.

GitHub is free, a VPS isn't.

Owning things isn't free (and a VPS isn't owning things, either)

I absolutely agree with the concept, but people have to be ready to do their own work rather than delegating it to other parties. Consolidation has happened because these massive conglomerates absorb operational complexity on the cheap, and that's attractive. Moving away from them means we take on the responsibility of doing it ourselves.

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by sagaro »

righthand wrote: post #23
sagaro wrote: post #21

I agree with the point that big companies have persuaded people that only they can offer ease of publishing content. most of my friends publish on Facebook, X, Instagram etc. I have tried to get them to publish markdown sites using GitHub pages, but the pain of having to git commit and do it via desktop was the blocker. So I recently made them a mobile app called JekyllPress [0] with which they can publish their post…

Isn’t publishing on Github Pages still posting to a corporate centrally owned entity and not a solution to the problem described?

But it is portable. It is essentially markdown files. You can download your repo, compile the Jekyll to static pages and publish them anywhere.

When you publish to Facebook, WordPress etc you can't easily get your stuff out. You will have to process them even if they allow you to download your content as a zip folder. The images will be broken. Links between pages won't work etc.

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by graypegg »

Findecanor wrote: post #44

I remember a web when practically every ISP allowed you to have a "home page" hosted with them. Your home page was situated in the "public_html" directory of your home directory on their server — hence the name. Then the URL was http://www. /~ I haven't see an URL with a tilde ('~') in it in a long time. Why did ISPs stop with this service? Was it to curb illegal file sharing?

I've seen a few around on HN actually! Though they tend to be university systems, or pages hosted on https://tilde.club/

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by rokkamokka »

Findecanor wrote: post #44

I remember a web when practically every ISP allowed you to have a "home page" hosted with them. Your home page was situated in the "public_html" directory of your home directory on their server — hence the name. Then the URL was http://www. /~ I haven't see an URL with a tilde ('~') in it in a long time. Why did ISPs stop with this service? Was it to curb illegal file sharing?

Likely demand dropped and when the infra hosting it was needing replacement it just never got replaced

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by sumtechguy »

Findecanor wrote: post #44

I remember a web when practically every ISP allowed you to have a "home page" hosted with them. Your home page was situated in the "public_html" directory of your home directory on their server — hence the name. Then the URL was http://www. /~ I haven't see an URL with a tilde ('~') in it in a long time. Why did ISPs stop with this service? Was it to curb illegal file sharing?

Think it had more to do with the consolidation of the ISP space.

I used to have my choice of dozens of ISP's. Now if I am lucky I might have 2 or 3 from very large companies that did the math on keeping that going. It mostly happened when ADSL and cable took over. In most areas that meant only 2 or 3 companies could actually provide anything at speeds their customers wanted. Think at the time they always said it was cost cutting.

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by mold_aid »

Very much enjoyed this. Always am shocked that my colleagues on the humanistic/writing studies side don't have a larger contingent actively contributing to web and publication technologies/specs, ceding so much of that space to folks with design backgrounds; they still don't really invest enough time into understanding networked writing

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by titzer »

Findecanor wrote: post #44

I remember a web when practically every ISP allowed you to have a "home page" hosted with them. Your home page was situated in the "public_html" directory of your home directory on their server — hence the name. Then the URL was http://www. /~ I haven't see an URL with a tilde ('~') in it in a long time. Why did ISPs stop with this service? Was it to curb illegal file sharing?

Universities still have this--well, ok, at least for Faculty :)

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~btitzer/riff.html

I actually haven't had a homepage for a long time because of the lack of the easy "put my home directory on the web", but I'd like to go back now to doing that.

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by Tepix »

> Tiny computers are like tiny homes

They totally suck like tiny homes? No, actually they are better than tiny homes. Browser are the #1 reason why you want a computer that's better than a Pi 500. Wanting to play modern games is #2.

Re: A simple web we own

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Post by righthand »

sagaro wrote: post #53
righthand wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t publishing on Github Pages still posting to a corporate centrally owned entity and not a solution to the problem described?

But it is portable. It is essentially markdown files. You can download your repo, compile the Jekyll to static pages and publish them anywhere. When you publish to Facebook, WordPress etc you can't easily get your stuff out. You will have to process them even if they allow you to download your content as a zip folder. The images will be broken. Links between pages won't work etc.

Facebook provides a data export service which gives you a zip file with a web version of all your content. I’m not sure what the difference is then between that and a Github hosted repository of all your content as a webpage.
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