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> How the fuck can it be the 'fastest' while > high-performance quadcore chips were long released > even before this phone came into existence? Indeed how? How was scrolling on the first iPhone smoother than on current android devices running on said quad core chips? How about understanding that processor power is not all there is? > So may I kindly request you to cut the crap and stop the bias and avoid > provoking…

How was scrolling on the first iPhone smoother than on current android devices running on said quad core chips? This explains your in-depth knowledge of what processors and their comparisons really mean. Thank you

On the contrary, what the comment shows is an understanding that "faster" in a regular consumer's mind isn't about CPU benchmarking, but about interacting with the device.

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Because it's Apple. People know Apple, they know how it will perform, they know it will run the Apps their friends talk about, they know the Apple stores are there if they need service, etc. The iPad Mini, instead of being a bold play to kill the 7" tablet competitors is (unsurprisingly, perhaps) merely a smaller iPad. Maybe a somewhat cheaper iPad, but not an appreciably cheaper tablet at it's size. And instead of s…

Don't most smartphone users have an Android phone? And wouldn't they therefore want to reuse the apps they've already paid for when they switch to a tablet?

This is purely a personal observation based on the people I know who have iPhones and Android, but I've noticed quite a differnce in the typical users.

Most of the iPhone users I know are at least reasonably passionate about their platform, are keen on tech (and therefore more likely to want a tablet) and have usually invested fairly heavily in apps.

Android users that I know are mostly split into two camps - the high-tech users who made a very conscious decision to go to Android, usually out a desire to be able to customise/have more control of their device. These people are again quite likely to be in the market for tablets, and have probably invested in their apps (although there seem to be more free ad-supported apps on Android, so the actual cash investment may not always be as high).

But there's another, and again purely from personal experience, much wider group of Android users. Those who got it cheap/free on their latest contract upgrade, who aren't that passionate at all about either tech or their platform, who have probably not downloaded many, or even any, apps on there. Much of my family, and many of my low-tech friends, are in this camp - they are Android users, but hardly aware of the fact.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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Because it's Apple. People know Apple, they know how it will perform, they know it will run the Apps their friends talk about, they know the Apple stores are there if they need service, etc. The iPad Mini, instead of being a bold play to kill the 7" tablet competitors is (unsurprisingly, perhaps) merely a smaller iPad. Maybe a somewhat cheaper iPad, but not an appreciably cheaper tablet at it's size. And instead of s…

Don't most smartphone users have an Android phone? And wouldn't they therefore want to reuse the apps they've already paid for when they switch to a tablet?

Sure they would. However, the Android market has not caught up to that yet. I base that on the Android forums I am reading. Android probably has a year to go before that is "true".

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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You're overthinking it. Amazon is basically saying the iPad Mini is underpowered and more expensive. Yeah, what else is new? If Apple competed on tech specs and price, they wouldn't have sold a single Mac in the last 15 years. Price and specs is not why people will be buying the mini.

Why will people be buying the Mini?

Because of the abundance of good, cheap apps that Android users have to wait or hope for.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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As far as the "Ultra-fast MIMO Wi-Fi", iPad Mini has that too. (I can only assuming they're referring to 802.11n)

Here's the slide from the Kindle HD announcement: http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-hails-improved-mimo-wif... At the time it beat the iPad 3 but I don't know if the mini changes that.

That probably was not against the latest iPad released the same time as the mini.

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When you're a Microsoft, an Apple or a Google you have the money to create something truly epic - and none of them have. The Surface has great design, as do all of Apple's products. However the Surface, while having the potential for great software, comes with something not quite finished. So while it's eminently usable as it is, it falls short of greatness. The iPad Mini, similarly, has the quality one expects from…

If we're comparing their latest tablet products, shouldn't Google's be the Nexus 7? (Or, probably within a week, the all-but-inevitable Nexus 10.)

The Nexus series represent the only devices that Google directly supports, after all. In which case I think we can strike out all the complaints you list, from the customer's perspective. The focus then turns to Android's perceived handicap in regards to tablet apps.

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I think they are all epic in their own way. Especially in the case of the Surface - it's the first version of the product! The original iOS and Android devices all had crappy or non-existant app stores when they were launched, and were plagued with problems and limitations. Similarly, for the right use-cases iPad Mini and the Nexus tablets are epic , and many people adore them.

What's so great about Surface besides its design and build material? I don't mean to knock on those. I think they are great, but that doesn't equal that the product overall is great. Windows RT is performing very poorly on an high-end ARM chip (don't want to imagine how it would perform on an older dual core ARM chip, or god forbid a single core one) compared to the true mobile operating systems like Android and iOS,…

Almost all the complaints I have heard relate to the apps, particularly third party apps. The OS itself everyone seems to agree runs very smoothly. Considering it was only released last Friday, I think we should give them a little more time to mature.

Some people like the "big phone" style tablets, but personally I'm much more interested in a tablet that is a true multitasking full-fat device. Surface is imperfect, but it's a great step in the right direction.

For some people it's better value than the iPad, for some its worse.

Re: Amazon.com criticising new iPad on homepage

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There's so much about this which is disingenuous. I'm not surprised by this, but it's worth pointing out some of the tricks Amazon are employing here: 1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. 2. Kindle Fire HD branding is used (…

1. Much More for Much Less. Much More is obviously the kindle fire HD, and Much Less is the iPad Mini. Heck, if you remove the 'f' of 'for' you get to the central point here which is to turn the choice into 'Much More or Much Less'. You are reading way too deeply into this. Unless you have some research to back up your assertion that people frequently misread "for" as "or", it's hard to believe. 5. Because the iPad M…

The iPad 3 was able to download at >30mbps on wi-fi, much faster on LTE. They say speeds were improved for the 4th gen.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/new-ipad-3-1...

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Here's their full comparison: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_366177422... Tell you one thing, apple.com's got them beat on URLs ..

"Create custom profiles for each child".

This is actually something that I do wish iOS would introduce. My daughter is not getting her own iPad any time soon, but I'd love to be able to lock down the apps/features that she's able to use on mine.

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