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Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#181

Wow. That sucks. hcloud was great for ages and highly competitively priced. Vultr may be a good alternative. If you want to search VPS prices across the 6 major clouds (gcloud, aws-cli, hcloud, az, doctl, and vultr-cli) I made a wrapper TUI that lets you search, sort, and rent VPS. See it here: https://tui.bluedot.ink

I would be very surprised if all hosting providers didn’t increase their prices eventually.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#182

Silver lining: can you imagine how dirt cheap RAM will be after that bubble has popped? Oh my...

It won't. Demand is being pushed forward. That means that longer this situation take longer it will take for prices to recover to same levels.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#183

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AFAIK, it's been stabilizing lately at the current price, so at least it's not increasing anymore: https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/ By the same time next year the prices likely gone down, although maybe not to the pre-increase, but surely much lower than currently. Putting it in my calendar to revisit this comment in a year :)

Stabilized at 5x (or more), a change that occurred over like 3mo. Grocery prices have also stabilized but I’m still paying too much ha

Well, if all the doomers and gloomers were correct that this is the end of hardware at home, we'd see the price continue to increase, and suppliers trying to ramp up production, even if it'd take long time.

The fact that it stabilized (at whatever price) and that suppliers aren't even thinking about ramping up production, should tell people that the doomers and gloomers were yet again over-reacting to things they don't fully understand themselves.

> Grocery prices have also stabilized but I’m still paying too much

I think that's a local problem, if you happen to live in a country that's trying to move over to isolationism rather than globalism as of late. In other modern countries the prices are also increasing, but at least following inflation somewhat so the increase doesn't seem as bad for us. Maybe at least yet? Who knows.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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That Trump makes us very motivated to stop relying on American tech.

This doesn't solve the issue that globalism caused. Europe doesn't make DRAM nor has the know-how to quickly bring factories online which usually take 10+ years. We are tied to American economy and if AI companies start driving prices up not only DRAM but basically everything will become more expensive.

Isn’t there also basically 0 American DRAM?

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#185

... more customers so they must increase prices? This seems backwards from how scale usually works.

It is, but more customers at a time of historically high component prices will do it. If you set your costs assuming every user's hardware is $1, and your customer base doubles when the hardware is $2, you're going to have to raise prices for everybody

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#186

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Due to lack of memory leaks which will stop increasing RAM prices?

The efficiency... https://users.rust-lang.org/t/energy-consumption-in-programm...

I see that's from almost 10 years ago, it would be interesting to see how that's changed with improvements to V8, python and C# since.

Also, Typescript 5 times worse than Javascript? That doesn't really make sense, since they share the same runtime.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#187

I recommend Netcup as a solid EU budget alternative to Hetzner, zero complaints from me.

They are solid and cheaper, but they don't offer the same level of control plane and API access as Hetzner that is really helpful when managing a larger number of servers.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Why tax something that the market will figure out? This is normal and things will sort themself out.

We see that market is very irrational now and it can stay irrational for long enough to destroy everything we know in tech. By the time market figures things out, you may no longer have services, and hardware that you use daily. When such amounts of stupid money are pumped into a single industry, even if all AI companies went out of business tomorrow, it's going to take years for things to go back to normal. FWIW, I'…

> it can stay irrational for long enough to destroy everything we know in tech

What does this even mean? I know people on the internet sometimes exaggerate, but I cannot even begin to find a more charitable meaning with this, what exactly will be "destroyed" in "tech" because of prices going up for a year or two?

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#189

Wow. That sucks. hcloud was great for ages and highly competitively priced. Vultr may be a good alternative. If you want to search VPS prices across the 6 major clouds (gcloud, aws-cli, hcloud, az, doctl, and vultr-cli) I made a wrapper TUI that lets you search, sort, and rent VPS. See it here: https://tui.bluedot.ink

> Vultr may be a good alternative

I feel like a huge selling point of Hetzner is that they're based in Europe, and they're themselves citing that as the reason for a huge uptick in sales and new users. In that context, I don't Vultr is a realistic alternative.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

#190
post #147

Can anybody predict this craze? The classical memory manufacturers are not yet adding additional manufacturing capacity. They learned this hard way in the past. That means, the demand is here to stay for years without typical bubble burst. Is this a point where Chinese companies will rise worldwide?

Hard to predict. If the bubble pops (NVIDIA and "circular economy", massive FAANG datacenter expansion plans, huge LLM training budgets) the markets will once again be flooded with components.

But, the shortages may very well continue into 2027, leading to some manufacturers going out of business and yet another massive redistribution of wealth.

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