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Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

You mean during the Napoleonic wars? Science was already fully embraced by then. Or do you think the Austrians and the French were casting spells against each other instead of firing cannon?

Napoleonic wars? The Spanish used guns against the Aztecs.

>The first use of firearms as primary offensive weapons came in the 1421 Battle of Kutná Hora.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_firearm

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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What does it mean to search yourself for words, even if they fall short of the eleganance that Ai can produce? "What to do when Ai says 'I love you'?" discusses this conundrum https://www.npr.org/2025/07/18/g-s1177-78041/what-to-do-when... I've been paying attention to Sherry Turkle since I caught this show over the summer. She was on a panel at Davos titled "Swipe Left on Reality" which was the first time I heard he…

Thanks for the WEF video with Sherry Turkle. Every word of hers is dripping with wisdom, and I feel not enough people are paying attention to her. She talks of "artificial intimacy" and "pretend empathy" and how people are addicted to ChatGPT and its ilk primarily because of the pretension / sycophancy, and choosing that over the real-life friction, disagreements and negotiation required and necessary for healthy relationships IRL. And how social media is a gateway drug to chatbots.

Recommended watch. (Thanks!)

Her book _Alone Together_ is also worth reading.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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I genuinely don’t understand AI people anymore. Like the cognitive gap is so huge that I feel like I’m from another planet now. Im not religious, but automating religion is so absolutely meaningless that it boggles my mind. You could have a machine emit million of prayers up to heaven per second, but why would you? And despite what you think, most of us can tell apart AI generated content from the genuine thing. I am…

I used to worry that the problem was that LLMs allowed you to be stupid, but I recently realized the actual problem is that they reward you for being stupid.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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No priest will feed sufficient context about their community into the context window - even if they were skilled enough to do so, unless the model was locally hosted, doing so would be a violation of their vows of silence. Good homilies are written with the particular community in mind. If it were more effective to write a homily for a generic public, the Vatican would have started publishing standard homilies long a…

Nit: you're confusing the vow of silence with the confessional seal.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Your comment has a very strong AI stench.

A comment about how nobody can tell facades from the real thing — and the first response is someone trying to tell. I appreciate the live demo.

It's a tell that you think people can't tell.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Btw pope is a math phd.

Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

The Catholic Church was funding a lot of research for a long time. E.g the Elon Musk of his time, Galileo, was famously sponsored by it and when asked to contrast his theories against the established view, sperged out so hard against the people tasked with reviewing his publications, they tossed him under the carriage.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Btw pope is a math phd.

Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

the catholic church has traditionally been pro-science, the contrast with science is a modern development. There's a ton of Catholic clergy who were scientists[0], many of those well known (Mersenne, Mendel, Copernicus, Venturi etc).

Even the epitome of the science-church conflict, the Galileo story, started from a scientific disagreement before the religious one[1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marin_Mersenne

[0] https://tofspot.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-great-ptolemaic-sma...

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Btw pope is a math phd.

Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

I don’t know about popes, but many prominent mathematicians, philosophers and early scientists were priests or monks: Mendel, Copernicus, Bayes, Ockham, Bolzano... It was pretty much the only way to get the kind of education, intellectual culture, time and focus required for hundreds of years (at least in Europe), until the upper-middle class widened around the enlightenment and industrial revolution.

The friction between the church and science is a relatively new phenomenon, at least at the current scale. There are always exceptions like Galileo, but it took science a long time to start answering (and contradicting) some of the key questions about our world and where we come from that religion addresses.

Re: Pope tells priests to use their brains, not AI, to write homilies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the pope being a man of science a couple of hundred years back... How much better the world could be.

They often were. A lot of history has been retold more in a way to fit contemporary narrative than to maintain historical accuracy. For instance Galileo. The typical tale is something like Galileo dared claim the Earth is not the center of the universe, the Church freaked out at the violation of dogma, shunned him, and he was lucky to escape with his life. In reality the Pope was one of Galileo's biggest supporters a…

Cover both sides in neutrality???!!!

The geocentric position is silly and wrong. There are no two sides here.

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