The mind salivates at the idea of sub-$100 and soon after sub-$10 Lidar. We could build spatial awareness into damn near everything. It'll be a cambrian explosion of autonomous robots.
And, I guess, even more advanced surveillance.
Sub-$200 Lidar could reshuffle auto sensor economics
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#12> laser pulses > phased-array I'm not well versed into RF physics. I had the feeling that light-wave coherency in lasers had to be created at a single source (or amplified as it passes by). That's the first time I hear about phased-array lasers. Can someone knowledgeable chime in on this?
A phased array is an antenna composed of multiple smaller antennas within the same plane that can constructively/destructively aim its radio beam within any direction it is facing. I'm no radio engineer but I think it works via an interference pattern being strongest in the direction you want the beam aimed. This is mostly used in radar arrays though I suppose it could work with light too since it is also a wave.
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#13The mind salivates at the idea of sub-$100 and soon after sub-$10 Lidar. We could build spatial awareness into damn near everything. It'll be a cambrian explosion of autonomous robots.
And, I guess, even more advanced surveillance.
The minute internet became widespread it was game over.
Pros and cons. :/
It'll never happen, but we need a bill of rights for privacy. The laypeople aren't well-versed or pained enough to ask for this, and big interest donors oppose it.
Maybe the EU and states like California will pioneer something here, though?
Edit: in general, I'm far more excited by cheap lidar tech than I am afraid of the downsides. We just need to be vigilant.
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#15I saw a Waymo in Seattle, today. If Waymo can get Seattle right, that gives me a lot of confidence that their stack is very capable of difficult road conditions. Note: I have not had the pleasure of riding in one yet, but from what my friend in SJ says, it’s very convenient and confidence-inspiring.
I have had the pleasure of riding a few times in SanFrancisco. The drive was delightful and felt really safe. It handled the SF terrain, traffic and mixed traffic like trams very well. I wouldnt trust a self driving tesla ( or any camera only systems) though!
Tesla doesnt have Lidar?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
And, I guess, even more advanced surveillance.
The minute internet became widespread it was game over. Pros and cons. :/ It'll never happen, but we need a bill of rights for privacy. The laypeople aren't well-versed or pained enough to ask for this, and big interest donors oppose it. Maybe the EU and states like California will pioneer something here, though? Edit: in general, I'm far more excited by cheap lidar tech than I am afraid of the downsides. We just nee…
The EU already has. GDPR and the AI Act puts a lot of limits on what you can do in the open space, although it doesn't always go far enough.
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#17Oh hell yeah, we can finally stop the braindead attempts to make a safe self-driving car with just cameras.
Tesla actually re-introduced radar sensors in HW4.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-hardware-4-hd-radar-first-lo...
They might not use them for autopilot, but maybe for some emergency braking stuff, when everything else failed.
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#18The mind salivates at the idea of sub-$100 and soon after sub-$10 Lidar. We could build spatial awareness into damn near everything. It'll be a cambrian explosion of autonomous robots.
And, I guess, even more advanced surveillance.
I think we’re well past the point where mass surveillance was a technical challenge. Mass oppression through autonomous violence however…
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#19can I buy it on digikey yet?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have had the pleasure of riding a few times in SanFrancisco. The drive was delightful and felt really safe. It handled the SF terrain, traffic and mixed traffic like trams very well. I wouldnt trust a self driving tesla ( or any camera only systems) though!
Tesla doesnt have Lidar?