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Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by jdeisenberg »

raincole wrote: post #222
Grimburger wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I can make a dropbox clone in a one-liner bash command too Outright dismissal like this should be judged as harshly as the comment itself.

The parent comment explained why they dismissed this in clear language. Yours is a random weird comparison to Dropbox (how is it related to this post? Which side is Dropbox, TikTok or Loops?)

I think this is a reference to when Dropbox was first introduced. I recall posts dismissing it as “just something that could be done as well with a bash script”.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by niel »

raincole wrote: post #222
Grimburger wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I can make a dropbox clone in a one-liner bash command too Outright dismissal like this should be judged as harshly as the comment itself.

The parent comment explained why they dismissed this in clear language. Yours is a random weird comparison to Dropbox (how is it related to this post? Which side is Dropbox, TikTok or Loops?)

I believe GP is referencing this classic comment from 2007 on Drew's original Show HN post for Dropbox:

> For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by Kovah »

CqtGLRGcukpy wrote: post #198

It's worth keeping in mind that Loops is made by dansup which has also made and runs Pixelfed, FediDB, and has a history of being hostile to developers. You can see the recounting of his hostility at https://dansup-open-letter.github.io/appendix/ (I'm not a signature of the open letter)

Unfortunately, I can second this, both as a developer and a user. His IMHO childish behavior has ruined his image for me, and is not a good lighthouse for the Fediverse itself. Also, as a OSS veteran myself, I see it extremely critical that he is starting new projects all along, denies to get proper help and build up a maintainer team, and leaves older projects in the dust. Pixelfed is the one product he might should focus on, jet it feels like the platform is in maintenance only mode. Pixelfed is a wonderful addition to the Fediverse and deserves to be on good hands.

Maybe, and this is a very personal opinion, his product success and the Kickstarter campaign raising over 100k made him feel like he's better than everybody else. And one can see the effects.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by adrianN »

larodi wrote: post #226
raincole wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heroin is illegal, so the first step to make this analogy work is to criminalize TikTok.

Long overdue in fact. But then perhaps heroin wouldn’t be illegal if it was big pharma was producing it in large quantities. It just got barred early enough. Besides why we always forget how addictive and damaging is the well available alcohol?

Heroin or similar compounds are in fact produced by big Pharma in large quantities.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by jowsie »

echelon wrote: post #229
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed

I actually looked at several graphs before posting. Wasn't easy to share crude data so I didn't link it. Now that I'm googling for more deliberate correlations, I see other people are talking about this: https://roytriggs.medium.com/internet-use-and-birth-rates-an... https://fortune.com/well/2025/03/28/phones-declining-birth-r... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/29/opinion/dating-marriage-c... "The phone killed babies…

This is completely ignoring the most common reason for not having children that I've heard amongst friends and family: "I can't afford a house, I'll never be able to afford kids."

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by bschwindHN »

pyaamb wrote: post #230

I've been casually daydreaming about possible paths an "AI augmented" newsfeed experience could take. I'm imagining an initial group of agents scraping the web for events (twitter/x, science/eng/business publications) that could potentially translate to stories that their end users (humans) might be interested in. those stories get picked up by another set of bots (equivalent to reddit posters) and get published on a…

How about you just _don't_ contribute to the slop pile? Also, that sounds like a machine that generates self-reinforcing echo chambers.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by lillecarl »

larodi wrote: post #226
raincole wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heroin is illegal, so the first step to make this analogy work is to criminalize TikTok.

Long overdue in fact. But then perhaps heroin wouldn’t be illegal if it was big pharma was producing it in large quantities. It just got barred early enough. Besides why we always forget how addictive and damaging is the well available alcohol?

Alcohol has fucked up more lives than any other drug in my sphere. People who have had their life fucked by drugs has mostly been because of inhumane government intervention.

// Sweden

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by cornholio »

groestl wrote: post #224
intothemild wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching all these open source, federated versions of social media platforms is like if you found out your favourite drug was actually manufactured by some really bad people and made people around the world suffer. So you make an open source version of the drug. Similar formula, just this time the people can own it. Sure you cut out the bad people, but is the situation improved now?

There are projects where long term addicts are given pure medical heroin (Diamorphin) in a controlled environment, and they do considerably better than their control group who does not receive their drugs like that. E.g. https://patrida.de/

Their drug is rage, thirst and cute trap videos generated by AI and selected for maximum engagement.

If it's not harmful it's not the same drug. Unlike diamorphine, a medical grade supply does not reduce harm; it's more like sniffing glue, inhaling poison to escape reality.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by gregman1 »

bloody-crow wrote: post #204

Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

I noticed that some lemmy instances and channels are managed in the same way Facebook and Reddit groups are - by corporations, using many bot accounts that fake user behavior/anctivity and make echo chamber environment.

So if corpo approach was compromised why not migrate the plethora of experience and knowledge to another platform to continue brainwashing disguised as marketing strategy and facilitation.

Re: Loops is a federated, open-source TikTok

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Post by refulgentis »

bloody-crow wrote: post #204

Who actually wants this? Kids obsesses with TikTok don't care about federated/open source bits. People who do are not on TikTok or interested in this type of brainrot in the first place. What am I missing?

TikTok is brainrot the same way YouTube is brainrot is the same way TV is brainrot is the same way moving pictures are brainrot. The medium is not the message. (I.e. TikTok is damn good)
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