had been using GrapheneOS for a while now, feels goated and keeps things alive from back when rooting was so common in cyanogen days. we are at a stage where the big corps are too hard to push against :(
GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple
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Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple
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It's more frustrating because my partner's pixel 4A cannot use google pay or the bank apps because it is an invalid os - I am guessing due to lack of updates? So, perfectly fine hardware, but crippled in functionality due to the lack of software updates.
My partner has a 4a and no such issues. Are you talking about stock Android or something else,
Yeah - Stock Android! We are not in the states, but might have to investigate further if it works for others.
Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple
#963I've found that your experience with GrapheneOS greatly depends on which country you're in and which mobile provider you use. I'm on Freedom Mobile in Canada and I had enough issues that I went back to stock. RCS didn't work at all, and my phone would regularly lose the cellular connection to the point I had to reboot the phone and reset the cellular network settings. I didn't feel like I could trust it in an emergen…
I’m with Freedom Mobile in Vancouver, currently using a rather old iPhone. My next phone will probably run GOS. I have issues with Freedom on my iPhone too. Poor signal, or else “good” signal but poor data backhaul. Are you pretty sure your issues went away after going back to stock Android? Or is it possible it’s just Freedom Mobile’s general issues?
RCS works perfectly on stock and I haven't had any random drops of the cell network since I switched back. I'm not saying it's bug-free, but those particular issues disappeared with stock compared to GOS. It could also be because I'm on a Pixel 10 Pro and they just haven't worked out all the issues yet. I plan to try again in a few months.
Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple
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GrapheneOS provides major privacy enhancements including Contact Scopes, Storage Scopes, Sensors toggle, per-connection Wi-Fi privacy via per-connection DHCP state + MAC randomization and far more. It's a privacy project and privacy depends on security so it heavily focuses on protecting against exploitation of privacy and security vulnerabilities too. Privacy and security are not separate things from each other but…
I won't argue with you on the project-related part of it, you obviously know best there :) Thank you for all the work! But how would you "rate" for example desktop "GNU/Linux" with this in mind? Quite clearly privacy is important here and none of the major components leak/store unnecessary personal data. But the security story is quite sad, everything runs as the same user so a random `npm install` can just do whatev…
> Quite clearly privacy is important
It's seriously lacking. There's little work on it. Applications are largely fully trusted with lack of a modern permission model.
> none of the major components leak/store unnecessary personal data
Many components have privacy issues and have privacy invasive services.
> I would say that GNU/Linux is privacy-friendly, but has terrible security.
Disagree with an OS which has poor privacy protections against applications and services along with overall lack of systemic work on privacy being privacy friendly. Android Open Source Project without our privacy improvements is more privacy friendly than desktop Linux.
There's not much privacy when nearly everything has access to everything and developers do all kinds of things which are bad for privacy. They may not be trying to gather user data but that doesn't mean the services quietly used by many applications are privacy friendly.
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iodéOS lags far behind on Android, Linux kernel, browser engine and other updates too. It's much less behind than /e/ and misleads users less but they still do. They set an inaccurate Android security patch level which misleads users just as /e/ does.
I didn't know. Do you have a link to one specific announcement where they mislead people about the patch level? It would help to start a conversation to change that.
The patch level they set in the operating system is consistently inaccurate. They raise the patch level based on applying a subset of the AOSP patches without the full set of patches including being missing kernel, driver and firmware patches.
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> I don't see F-Droid itself mentioned F-Droid itself is great, but I find that the NeoStore front end to F-Droid is superior because it has multi-repository capability, offering a long list of alternative apk sources that can readily be verified for quality.
Neo Store looks interesting, but the readme in the GitHub repo includes emojis in the feature list, which is a bit of a red flag for me, especially since the project appears to have started only two years ago.
What is the concern about emojis in the feature list?
Re: GrapheneOS – Break Free from Google and Apple
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Neo Store looks interesting, but the readme in the GitHub repo includes emojis in the feature list, which is a bit of a red flag for me, especially since the project appears to have started only two years ago.
What is the concern about emojis in the feature list?
It's an indicator of LLM output, so calls into question the integrity of the software itself.