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Post by logifail »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #471
bitwize wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, by state legislatures. The concept was the Senate would reflect the states' interests, whereas the House would reflect the people's interests, in matters of federal legislation.

For those unaware, the German Federal democratic system works in a similar way. They have two houses: the Bundestag (directly elected) and the Bundesrat (appointed by state legistatures). As a outsider, their democracy appears to be very high functioning, which demonstrates this form of democracy can work well.

> their democracy appears to be very high functioning, which demonstrates this form of democracy can work well

This probably depends on your definition of "working well".

In March 2025, after the last Federal elections were held in Germany (February 2025), but before the new parliament was constituted (within 30 days of the results?), the new governing coalition engineered a constitutional amendment which required a supermajority which they would not have in the new parliament, so instead they held the vote in the old parliament.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/world/europe/germany-debt...

This was perfectly legal, although if you explain it to an outsider it might seem like an abuse of process.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by rixed »

ColinWright wrote: post #20

I used to have a LinkedIn account, a long time ago. To register I created an email address that was unique to LinkedIn, and pretty much unguessable ... certainly not amenable to a dictionary attack. I ended up deciding that I was getting no value from the account, and I heard unpleasant things about the company, so I deleted the account. Within hours I started to get spam to that unique email address. It would be int…

I don't remember where I got this from, but I've heard long ago about a company which TOS stated vehemently that they would never sell the contacts of their customers... Only to sell them once the accounts are closed because, well, technically those were no longer customers.

So maybe that's what happened?

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Post by rsync »

egorfine wrote: post #317
g8oz wrote: post #311

It seems to me that if you let Persona verify your identity you're essentially providing data enrichment for the US government. In exchange for what? A blue tick from a feeder platform like LinkedIn, Reddit or Discord? No thanks. On the other hand it can be hard to escape if it's for something that actually matters. Coursera is a customer. You might want your course achievements authenticated. The Canada Media Fund a…

> KYC platforms have a place Yes. In hell.

No, in banking.

Banks are in a unique and perfect place to collect and require KYC data.

Because of the exorbitant privileges given to banks by state actors it should be easy to demand that the banks KYC be extensible to all other private transactions.

Which is to say: if the banks do KYC, nobody else has to.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by corry »

aylmao wrote: post #288

I'll note that Persona's CEO responded on LinkedIn [1] pointing out that: - No personal data processed is used for AI/model training. Data is exclusively used to confirm your identity. - All biometric personal data is deleted immediately after processing. - All other personal data processed is automatically deleted within 30 days. Data is retained during this period to help users troubleshoot. - The only subprocessor…

I mean...

1) This is 'trust me bro' with more details

2) 'After processing' is wide enough to drive a truck through. What if processing takes a year? What if processing is defined as something involving recurring checks?

3) You have no contract with Persona or even LinkedIn beyond the fact that you agreed to LinkedIn's TOS (but didn't even read).

4) The company that acquires or takes-private Persona might have a very different of how it handles this.

5) What does verifying do for you, the user? I understand its value to LinkedIn and their ability to sell your attention to advertisers, but what do YOU gain?

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Post by parineum »

shimman wrote: post #315
y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #308

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All of which is meaningless if it's not reflected properly in their legal documents/terms. I've had interactions with the Flock CEO here on Hacker News and he also tried to reassure us that nothing fishy is/was going on. Take it with a grain of salt.

Why anyone would trust the executives at any company when they are only incentivized to lie, cheat, and steal is beyond me. It's a lesson every generation is hellbent on learning again and against and again. It use to be the default belief, throughout all of humanity, on how greed is bad and dangerous; yet for the last 100 years you'd think the complete opposite was the norm.

> It use to be the default belief, throughout all of humanity, on how greed is bad and dangerous

And what used to be the default beliefs on rape and slavery?

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by parineum »

nashashmi wrote: post #359
y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #308

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All of which is meaningless if it's not reflected properly in their legal documents/terms. I've had interactions with the Flock CEO here on Hacker News and he also tried to reassure us that nothing fishy is/was going on. Take it with a grain of salt.

Can a ceo's word on linkedin and X be used to make claims against them?

Anything a publicly traded company would state that would lead to a person making a decision to buy or sell stock would be subject to FTC regulations.

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Post by eimrine »

andrewjf wrote: post #217
mark_l_watson wrote: post #158

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Beautifully written, I saved your post to send the next friend or relative who asks me why I am so hard-over on privacy. I enjoyed working at Google hears ago as a contractor, and they are my ‘favorite’ tech company - the only mega-tech company who’s services I regularly use, but I am constantly mindful of their business model as I use YouTube, GCP, and their various dev APIs.

being "hard-over on privacy" and regularly using google services is an astounding level of cognitive dissonance.

Is Apple or Microsoft any better? Not using google services is more than "hard-over on privacy", it is almost being off-grid.

Re: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over

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Post by trinsic2 »

nine_k wrote: post #416
trinsic2 wrote: post #393

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You sound like someone that wants to normalize bad behavior. Good luck with that. I would never use a social networking site to find people or jobs. I'm not going to put support behind a entity that doesn't respect privacy and the fact that they are people who don't care, like you, are the problem and why we are in the situation we are in as a country at this point.

I won't call it a social networking site. I'd call it a business-card-exchange site, plus a corporate-flyers-handout site, and of course a self-promotion site. Selling emails is of course bad, but expecting your email that you give to any big corporation to stay private for a long time is, alas, naïve. I've read the fine print; in most EULAs it includes a ton of clauses about sharing your contacts with a bunch of thi…

Your response proves my point.
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