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Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
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#452Can't we rename "Claws" -> "Personal assistants"? OpenClaw is a stupid name. Even "OpenSlave" would be a better fit.
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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#453Can't we rename "Claws" -> "Personal assistants"? OpenClaw is a stupid name. Even "OpenSlave" would be a better fit.
Stupid name? sure, but there's no point in fighting it. Claws is a sticky name.
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#454I still dont understand the hype for any of this claw stuff
You don’t understand the allure of having a computer actually do stuff for you instead of being a place where you receive email and get yelled at by a linter?
Perhaps people are just too jaded about the whole "I'll never have to work again" or "the computer can do all my work for me" miracle that has always been just around the corner for decades.
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#455Can't we rename "Claws" -> "Personal assistants"? OpenClaw is a stupid name. Even "OpenSlave" would be a better fit.
How about "Open Assistants"? "OpenAss" for short?
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#456Why are people buying Mac Minis for this? I understand Mac Studios if you’re self hosting the models. But otherwise why not buy any cheap mini PC?
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#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see why you think there is. Put Openclaw on a locked down VM. Don't put anything you're not willing to lose on that VM.
But if we're talking about optionally giving it access to your email, PayPal etc and a "YOLO-outlook on permissions to use your creds" then the VM itself doesn't matter so much as what it can access off site.
Bastion hosts.
You don't give it your "prod email", you give it a secondary email you created specifically for it.
You don't give it your "prod Paypal", you create a secondary paypal (perhaps a paypal account registered using the same email as the secondary email you gave it).
You don't give it your "prod bank checking account", you spin up a new checking with Discover.com (or any other online back that takes Now then, I'm not trying to handwave away the serious challenges associated with this technology. There's also the threat of reputational risks etc since it is operating as your agent -- heck potentially even legal risk if things get into the realm of "oops this thing accidentally committed financial fraud."
I'm simply saying that the idea of least privileged permissions applies to online accounts as well as everything else.
Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents
#459Can't we rename "Claws" -> "Personal assistants"? OpenClaw is a stupid name. Even "OpenSlave" would be a better fit.
"Personal assistant” already has enough uses (both a narrower literal definition and a broader metaphorical definition applying to tools which includes but is not limited to what "claws" refers to) that using it probably makes communication more confusing rather than more clear. I don't think “claws” is a great name, but it does have the desirable trait of not already being heavily overloaded in a way that would promote confusion in the domain of application.
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#460I wonder how the internet would have been different if claws had existed beforehand.
I keep thinking something simpler like Gopher (an early 90's web protocol) might have been sufficient / optimal, with little need to evolve into HTML or REST since the agents might be better able to navigate step-by-step menus and questionnaires, rather than RPCs meant to support GUIs and apps, especially for LLMs with smaller contexts that couldn't reliably parse a whole API doc. I wonder if things will start heading more in that direction as user-side agents become the more common way to interact with things.