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Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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It’s really just easier integrations with stuff like iMessage. I assume easier for email and calendars too since that’s a total wreck trying to come up with anything sane for Linux VM + gsuite. At least has been from my limited experience so far. Other than that I can’t really come up with an explanation of why a Mac mini would be “better” than say an intel nuc or virtual machine.

Unified memory on Apple Silicon. On PC architecture, you have to shuffle around stuff between the normal RAM and the GPU RAM. Mac mini just happens to be the cheapest offering to get this.

Sure, but aren't most people running the *Claw projects using cloud inference?

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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The mere act of browsing the web is "write permissions". If I visit example.com/ , I've now written my password into the web server logs of that site. So the only remaining question is whether I can be tricked/coerced into doing so. I do tend to think this risk is somewhat mitigated if you have a whitelist of allowed domains that the claw can make HTTP requests to. But I haven't seen many people doing this.

Most web sites don't let you create service accounts; they're built for humans.

Is this reply meant to be for a different comment?

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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The DoDs recent beef with Anthropic over their right to restrict how Claude can be used is revealing. > Though Anthropic has maintained that it does not and will not allow its AI systems to be directly used in lethal autonomous weapons or for domestic surveillance Autonomous AI weapons is one of the things the DoD appears to be pursuing. So bring back the Skynet people, because that’s where we apparently are. 1. http…

> Autonomous AI weapons is one of the things the DoD appears to be pursuing. So bring back the Skynet people, because that’s where we apparently are. This situation legitimately worries me, but it isn't even really the SkyNet scenario that I am worried about. To self-quote a reply to another thread I made recently ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47083145#47083641 ): When AI dooms humanity it probably won't be…

Statistically more probable this kind of blunder will happen in a small disaster before a large disaster and then regulated

e.g. 50 people die due to water poisoning issue rather than 10 billion die in a claude code powered nuclear apocalypse

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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It’s as if ChatGPT is an autonomous agent that can do anything and keeps running constantly. Most AI tools require supervision, this is the opposite. To many people, the idea of having an AI always active in the background doing whatever they want them to do is interesting.

How do you need to supervise this "less" than an LLM that you can feed input to and get output back from? What does it mean that it's "running continuously"? Isn't it just waiting for input from different sources and responding to it? As the person you're replying to feels, I just don't understand. All the descriptions are just random cool sounding words/phrases strung together but none of it actually providing any c…

> Isn't it just waiting for input from different sources and responding to it?

Well, yes. "Just" that. Only that this is at a high level a good description of how all humans do anything, so, you know.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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I wonder how long it'll take (if it hasn't already) until the messaging around this inevitably moves on to "Do not self-host this, are you crazy? This requires console commands, don't be silly! Our team of industry-veteran security professionals works on your digital safety 24/7, you would never be able to keep up with the demands of today's cybersecurity attack spectrum. Any sane person would host their claw with us…

What exactly are they self hosting here? Probably not the model, right? So just the harness? That does sound like the worst of both worlds: You get the dependency and data protection issues of a cloud solution, but you also have to maintain a home server to keep the agent running on?

"maintain a home server" in this case roughly means "park a headless Mac mini (or laptop or RPi) on your desk"

And you can use a local LLM if you want to eliminate the cloud dependency.

Re: Claws are now a new layer on top of LLM agents

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It’s as if ChatGPT is an autonomous agent that can do anything and keeps running constantly. Most AI tools require supervision, this is the opposite. To many people, the idea of having an AI always active in the background doing whatever they want them to do is interesting.

How do you need to supervise this "less" than an LLM that you can feed input to and get output back from? What does it mean that it's "running continuously"? Isn't it just waiting for input from different sources and responding to it? As the person you're replying to feels, I just don't understand. All the descriptions are just random cool sounding words/phrases strung together but none of it actually providing any c…

I don't have one going but I do get the appeal. One example might be that it is prompted behind the scenes every time an email comes in and it sorts it, unsubscribes from spam, other tedious stuff you have to do now that is annoying but necessary. Well that is something running in the background, not necessarily continuously in the sense that it's going every second, but could be invoked at any point in time on an incoming email. That particular use case wouldn't sit well with me with today's LLMs, but if we got to a point where I could trust one to handle this task without screwing up then I'd be on board.
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