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twitter's continued existence
Oh yes Twitter, bastion of free speech, not an extension of the censorship arm of the government at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers...
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FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance
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#132Nothing says you're selling an inferior product better than having to propagandize people into believing in it.
I loved that 99 out of 100 times when I saw a sign of "Luxury Apartments" in the Bay Area they were old run down shit holes.
Turns out actual luxury apartments don't have to write it on a sign.
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#133When I was in sixth grade I found out (I am not sure how actually) that I didn’t have to say the pledge if I didn’t want to. I didn’t (and don’t) believe in God, and I didn’t believe in the “under God” part of the pledge, so I decided that I wouldn’t stand for the pledge anymore. This was an extremely conservative area, and so my teachers were very upset. I told them I don’t have to say the pledge if I don't want (an…
My kids are still young, but I’m going try very hard to be a father like this. Especially if it’s about things I don’t relate to or understand.
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Are there really parents that would force their children to say it anyway? This feels like such a bizarre thing to have a fight over.
What? This is incredible if you don’t think a sizable portion of parents in America would force their children to say it.
I think it's slightly unbelievable to us who grew up in secular societies where being agnostic/atheistic/non-practing-believer is fairly common and not so out of the ordinary. Then we start hearing about the experiences in christian-nationalistic countries and how it is growing up there, and it's just very different from what you expect from a modern country.
I'm guessing Aeolun might be from one of those places/countries/states :)
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#135Does the pledge of allegiance actually do anything? I can't even remember if I did it in school. I first thought "oh, my State must not have done the pledge in school", but after more reflection I think I did but just doing remember.
It reminds kids that they live in the United States, and that the country has values, and that they will be expected to defend the country as part of the social contract. I don't know if other countries have pledges like this but on the surface it seems OK to me. I think it also inspires worthwhile conversations about what we owe to the country (or not).
> that the country has values
As I've never said "The Pledge of Allegiance", this seems to be the original one, I'm guessing there might be some other modern variation schools use today, but anyways:
> I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I wouldn't be surprised that most people see it as a joke today, given the "with liberty and justice for all" is far from reality today, and it's very obvious to anyone.
> I don't know if other countries have pledges like this but on the surface it seems OK to me
Generally not, AFAIK. On the surface it seems like blatant propaganda to me, and kind of extremist, something you'd see not in a modern country typically.
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#136pledging allegence aloud to anything is bizarre and reminds of some sort of knights of the round table cosplay. It's especially weird making kids do it.
Cults doing cult stuff, bizarre indeed and seems widespread, strangely enough.
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#137We've already been there. -.-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Mathematik
I recommend translating the German version as it is much more detailed.
> "But far more important is the educational value that stems from the spiritual kinship between mathematics and the Third Reich. The fundamental disposition of both is the heroic. […] Both demand service: mathematics demands service to truth, integrity, and precision. […] Both are anti-materialistic. […] Both desire order and discipline; both combat chaos and arbitrariness."
Same for physics:
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
The “under god” part always rubbed me wrong. I was surprised to learn it was added relatively recently in 1954. I wish we could go back to the prior one.
There was a good book[0] about where that came from. Big business and religious leaders joined forced to fight the New Deal. [0] One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America Kevin M. Kruse https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22928900-one-nation-unde...
See also perhaps Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation by Kristin Kobes Du Mez:
> The book examines white evangelical affinity for Donald Trump. Du Mez explains that white evangelical support for Donald Trump during the 2016 United States presidential election was a continuing trend rather than an exception. The book focuses on the militant masculinity that white evangelicals idealize and how it has manifested in a pattern of abuse among evangelical leaders. Du Mez criticizes mainstream evangelicals such as John Eldredge, John Piper, and James Dobson for advancing the evangelical ideal of militant masculinity.[4]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_and_John_Wayne
The Christianity that is often in the news in the US is of a particular variety.
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#139To be the contrarian, I actually don't mind a call for more patriotic programming to celebrate the USA's 250th. That makes sense. I definitely mind the slippery slope this precedent introduces. (Why not just keep doing this?) I'm also concerned that this letter is more of a "mandate" than a "call." Regardless, Carr's letter searches hard for nostalgia. "Schoolhouse Rock" not being in syndication is eroding our nation…
It is funny to hear them complain about a lack of educational children's programming while... destroying the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and regularly shitting on people from Mr Rogers to Miss Rachel on Fox News.
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I suppose we'll have to see. Right now we have a Republican administration pushing it.
After some thought, a better question could be: How might networks effectively satisfy this appeal from the FCC without drawing the ire of the current administration and its supporters?
Civil disobedience?